Scarfe touches a raw nerve

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

just a few scores of metres from the Whitechapel that you have in mind. Do it more than the occasional tourist-visit and the risk-profile goes through the roof.

there are swathes of Belgrade, Kensington, Chelsea, Wimbledon, Richmond to name but a few, where one may feel a similar frisson of imminent despatch or wounding ... especially by the security arrangements ... the rich tribes do it their way but do it they do ... and out of town take care in Southwold and Chipping Norton eh?

now if the space is corporate space and covered by insurance requirements you are in a lesser danger but more constrained .... indeed you may be arrested by a jobsworth or two ..... and if you read out loud from a document your risk profile soars ...........


take great care with the establishment and its lackeys ... they are feral in their viciousness

[eighthobstruction]

GG >>>> deleted due to exhaustion with nonsense ! <<<<

....too much Jerky....

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

try celery and leave the poor bulls in the fields ....

[Beef Oven]

there are swathes of Belgrade, Kensington, Chelsea, Wimbledon, Richmond to name but a few, where one may feel a similar frisson of imminent despatch or wounding ... especially by the security arrangements ... the rich tribes do it their way but do it they do ... and out of town take care in Southwold and Chipping Norton eh?

now if the space is corporate space and covered by insurance requirements you are in a lesser danger but more constrained .... indeed you may be arrested by a jobsworth or two ..... and if you read out loud from a document your risk profile soars ...........


take great care with the establishment and its lackeys ... they are feral in their viciousness

That went right over my head

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

That went right over my head

really! where was your head at the time of the incident?

is that you on lead vocal?

[MrGongGong]

You are very naive. Your liberal, middle-class conscience could get you into a lot of trouble if you wander just a few scores of meteres from the Whitechapel that you have in mind. Do it more than the occasional tourist-visit and the risk-profile goes through the roof.

So i'm not allowed to visit my friends now ?
Or even go to some of the places where I work ?

I'm not saying there ISN'T crime
but a bit of perspective is most useful ..........

I made a piece a few years ago with someone who was living in the Salvation Army hostel on Whitechapel road, as part of the process we wandered all over the place at odd times of day and night making recordings ....... i'm very much aware of what the area is really like ! (which is also NOT to say that there aren'r real problems ........)

[teamsaint]

I could do with knowing what Whitechapel is really like to live in please. TS Junior possbily looking at house shares/Flats there (its cheap and on the district line apparently.).
Ta.

[Mr Pee]

I made a piece a few years ago with someone who was living in the Salvation Army hostel on Whitechapel road, as part of the process we wandered all over the place at odd times of day and night making recordings

Must have been a bit tricky with all the police and ambulance sirens.....

[teamsaint]

Must have been a bit tricky with all the police and ambulance sirens.....

Sonically interesting I would think.

[eighthobstruction]

[QUOTE=aka Calum Da Jazbo;

try celery and leave the poor bulls in the fields ....[/QUOTE]

Nice bit of celery....Tubby??....Ronnie Scott??....Stan Tracey??....wouldn't mind a bit more of that on "Yard"....

[MrGongGong]

Must have been a bit tricky with all the police and ambulance sirens.....

wot John said

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

go look see

[teamsaint]

wot John said

That was a rather good single by The Motors.

[Lateralthinking1]

I recognise both Calum and Beefy's perspectives. At 42, I changed overnight from someone who'd travel to any part of London to see music, theatre, sport etc into a person who wouldn't go anywhere. Age was a factor but environmental change was more so.

In the 1980s, it did feel like a little nerve was needed for places like Brixton after the riots. However, we arrived at concert venues like the Academy in droves and we left in droves. There was safety in numbers. Those attending the same event seemed to be 'on the same side'. Even on the occasions when I made my way home on my own by bus, I was aware that a lot of protest had been aimed at authorities and any disputes were often localised. I was a nobody in that situation and therefore irrelevant. It was ok ish.

The new accent on guns in the last decade was one of the things that finished me. As a football veteran, I was never hugely worried about the potential for ordinary scuffles in my vicinity, and saw some, but I just wasn't prepared to walk into Al Capone territory. That was especially true when it was becoming increasingly clear that sections of the population had lost their grip on reality, either fuelled by hard drugs, the mumbo jumbo of pretend religion, willingness to target anyone not subscribing to an arbitrary specific code, often deliberately chosen as not at all British, and the computer games industry which blurs the lines.

The other thing that did for me was the change in so-called authority. Places of entertainment became more like fortresses managed by ex-prisoners. Rather than being thanked for one's custom, we were told we were privileged for being there. There is also less of a spirit of comradeship. People there who are in the wrong - and there are more of those today - are more likely to have wealth and make use of the litigation culture to turn any situation around to their advantage. I could see the potential for inadvertently being the fall guy everywhere. Once any standards have been warped by the establishment, much is down to luck.

There was a time at Glastonbury, for example, when a Hooray Henry with girlfriend on shoulders flinging her arms around - actually punching people out - piled into the crowd knocking everyone flying. It was nothing new in itself and historically it would have been merely a sign of over-exuberance. But they were both yelling at people that they were getting in their way. According to them, it was everyone else who was in the wrong. And I knew that if people stood up to them even politely, it would be they who would be taken to court on some invented premise. In fact, I came away from that situation believing that they were probably solicitors. Presumably others thought that too, hence the universal irritation but non-reaction. The only answer is to avoid like the plague.

[Resurrection Man]

there are swathes of Belgrade, Kensington, Chelsea, Wimbledon, Richmond to name but a few, where one may feel a similar frisson of imminent despatch or wounding ... especially by the security arrangements ... the rich tribes do it their way but do it they do ... and out of town take care in Southwold and Chipping Norton eh?

now if the space is corporate space and covered by insurance requirements you are in a lesser danger but more constrained .... indeed you may be arrested by a jobsworth or two ..... and if you read out loud from a document your risk profile soars ...........


take great care with the establishment and its lackeys ... they are feral in their viciousness

Aux barricades!, mes ami, aux barricades.