Popular music is stuck almost exclusively in 4/4 time

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Popular music is stuck almost exclusively in 4/4 time

    Before anyone contradicts this by bring up examples of "pop" music in 3/4 or other meters, I did say "almost exclusively". I bring up the point now because Beyonce has just sung "The Star Spangled Banner", a melody composed in 3/4 time; but she sang it in 4/4 time.
    Some years ago, when England hosted the Rugby Union World Cup, the song "World in Union" was set to the big 3/4 melody at the heart of Holst's "Jupiter", from The Planets - except that it was brutally molested to make it fit into 4/4 time.

    Don't these people have any imagination? Or are they stuck in a 4/4 groove?
  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    It's because we are bipeds

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
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      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Before anyone contradicts this by bring up examples of "pop" music in 3/4 or other meters, I did say "almost exclusively". I bring up the point now because Beyonce has just sung "The Star Spangled Banner", a melody composed in 3/4 time; but she sang it in 4/4 time.
      Some years ago, when England hosted the Rugby Union World Cup, the song "World in Union" was set to the big 3/4 melody at the heart of Holst's "Jupiter", from The Planets - except that it was brutally molested to make it fit into 4/4 time.

      Don't these people have any imagination? Or are they stuck in a 4/4 groove?
      Isn't Disco stuff 8/8? However pop music is probably easier to sing in 4/4.

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        They cannot sing in anyother metre!! (Or shout!)
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Richard Tarleton

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          It's because we are bipeds
          So what's different about those of a Hispanic persuasion?

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            So what's different about those of a Hispanic persuasion?
            Nothing
            they just have trouble walking one foot at a time

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              They cannot sing in anyother metre!! (Or shout!)
              If they get all their ideas from pre-programmed electronic keyboards, then yes. But The Star-Spangled Banner is a tune every American knows, but can't sing, not because of the 3/4 time signature, but because of the octave and a half range that is beyond the vocal experience of most people.

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              • MrGongGong
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                The thing that always puzzles me about The Star-Spangled Banner is the bit where it goes "we wish you a merry Christmas"

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  The thing that always puzzles me about The Star-Spangled Banner is the bit where it goes "we wish you a merry Christmas"
                  ...with a great deal of melodic licence and lots of imagination...

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    ...with a great deal of melodic licence and lots of imagination...
                    Erm not really , that IS how it goes

                    "We wish you a merry Christmas , We wish you a merry Christmas
                    for the land of the freeeeeeeeeeeee
                    and the home of the whatever ..............."

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Before anyone contradicts this by bring up examples of "pop" music in 3/4 or other meters, I did say "almost exclusively". I bring up the point now because Beyonce has just sung "The Star Spangled Banner", a melody composed in 3/4 time; but she sang it in 4/4 time.
                      Some years ago, when England hosted the Rugby Union World Cup, the song "World in Union" was set to the big 3/4 melody at the heart of Holst's "Jupiter", from The Planets - except that it was brutally molested to make it fit into 4/4 time.

                      Don't these people have any imagination? Or are they stuck in a 4/4 groove?
                      One is reminded of Cornelius Cardew's Red Flag Prelude, which takes the 3/4 music of O Tannenbaum and stretches it to 4/4 to make a sort of slow march of it. Never did approve of singing Jim Connell's words to any music other than The White Cockade anyway.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        I suspect we know slightly different versions of We Wish..., MrGG

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                        • johncorrigan
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          I suspect we know slightly different versions of We Wish..., MrGG
                          Jimi's popular version
                          Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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                          • Bryn
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                            • Mar 2007
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                            #14
                            And of course, Igor's:

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                            • Mr Pee
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              The thing that always puzzles me about The Star-Spangled Banner is the bit where it goes "we wish you a merry Christmas"
                              You been on the Gin again, Mr GG??
                              Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                              Mark Twain.

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