Popular music is stuck almost exclusively in 4/4 time

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20592

    Popular music is stuck almost exclusively in 4/4 time

    Before anyone contradicts this by bring up examples of "pop" music in 3/4 or other meters, I did say "almost exclusively". I bring up the point now because Beyonce has just sung "The Star Spangled Banner", a melody composed in 3/4 time; but she sang it in 4/4 time.
    Some years ago, when England hosted the Rugby Union World Cup, the song "World in Union" was set to the big 3/4 melody at the heart of Holst's "Jupiter", from The Planets - except that it was brutally molested to make it fit into 4/4 time.

    Don't these people have any imagination? Or are they stuck in a 4/4 groove?
  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #2
    It's because we are bipeds

    Comment

    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22308

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Before anyone contradicts this by bring up examples of "pop" music in 3/4 or other meters, I did say "almost exclusively". I bring up the point now because Beyonce has just sung "The Star Spangled Banner", a melody composed in 3/4 time; but she sang it in 4/4 time.
      Some years ago, when England hosted the Rugby Union World Cup, the song "World in Union" was set to the big 3/4 melody at the heart of Holst's "Jupiter", from The Planets - except that it was brutally molested to make it fit into 4/4 time.

      Don't these people have any imagination? Or are they stuck in a 4/4 groove?
      Isn't Disco stuff 8/8? However pop music is probably easier to sing in 4/4.

      Comment

      • BBMmk2
        Late Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #4
        They cannot sing in anyother metre!! (Or shout!)
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

        Comment

        • Richard Tarleton

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          It's because we are bipeds
          So what's different about those of a Hispanic persuasion?

          Comment

          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
            So what's different about those of a Hispanic persuasion?
            Nothing
            they just have trouble walking one foot at a time

            Comment

            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20592

              #7
              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
              They cannot sing in anyother metre!! (Or shout!)
              If they get all their ideas from pre-programmed electronic keyboards, then yes. But The Star-Spangled Banner is a tune every American knows, but can't sing, not because of the 3/4 time signature, but because of the octave and a half range that is beyond the vocal experience of most people.

              Comment

              • MrGongGong
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #8
                The thing that always puzzles me about The Star-Spangled Banner is the bit where it goes "we wish you a merry Christmas"

                Comment

                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20592

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  The thing that always puzzles me about The Star-Spangled Banner is the bit where it goes "we wish you a merry Christmas"
                  ...with a great deal of melodic licence and lots of imagination...

                  Comment

                  • MrGongGong
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 18357

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    ...with a great deal of melodic licence and lots of imagination...
                    Erm not really , that IS how it goes

                    "We wish you a merry Christmas , We wish you a merry Christmas
                    for the land of the freeeeeeeeeeeee
                    and the home of the whatever ..............."

                    Comment

                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      Before anyone contradicts this by bring up examples of "pop" music in 3/4 or other meters, I did say "almost exclusively". I bring up the point now because Beyonce has just sung "The Star Spangled Banner", a melody composed in 3/4 time; but she sang it in 4/4 time.
                      Some years ago, when England hosted the Rugby Union World Cup, the song "World in Union" was set to the big 3/4 melody at the heart of Holst's "Jupiter", from The Planets - except that it was brutally molested to make it fit into 4/4 time.

                      Don't these people have any imagination? Or are they stuck in a 4/4 groove?
                      One is reminded of Cornelius Cardew's Red Flag Prelude, which takes the 3/4 music of O Tannenbaum and stretches it to 4/4 to make a sort of slow march of it. Never did approve of singing Jim Connell's words to any music other than The White Cockade anyway.

                      Comment

                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20592

                        #12
                        I suspect we know slightly different versions of We Wish..., MrGG

                        Comment

                        • johncorrigan
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 10547

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                          I suspect we know slightly different versions of We Wish..., MrGG
                          Jimi's popular version

                          Comment

                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            #14
                            And of course, Igor's:

                            Comment

                            • Mr Pee
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3285

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              The thing that always puzzles me about The Star-Spangled Banner is the bit where it goes "we wish you a merry Christmas"
                              You been on the Gin again, Mr GG??
                              Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                              Mark Twain.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X