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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    That's because it was. Adams' rejoinder about Schönberg / Schoenberg came as something of a relief although, elsewhere in the programme, it was clear that the Austrian's bogeyman status has still not yet diminished and, given that the composer himself would now be 138 years of age were he still with us, one might argue that such status has acquired a state of permanence. Never mind, of course, that some of Schönberg's post-Erwartung music still retains tonal inflections and certainly never mind the fact of his Second Chamber Symphony and Variations for Wind Band (in E flat minor and G minor respectively); dear me, no, that'll never do - we can't have Arnie's reputation as the destroyer of Western music undermined, now, can we?! Nor, of course, dare we have any suggestion that the tonal fabric was being rent apart by some of Schönberg's contemporaries and undermined by several of his predecessors, for that, too, would weaken the argument to pillory Schönberg and we must continue to do that at all costs, must we not? - especially on Radio 4 at just after 9 on a Monday morning!
    Well said, ahinton.

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    • anotherbob
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      • Sep 2011
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      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


      His TV series were quite good, I thought.
      I found his TV series illuminating and enlightening. I am looking forward to his next. Some people here would not be out of place in the Eye's Pseuds Corner

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      • Serial_Apologist
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        • Dec 2010
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        #18
        Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
        I found his TV series illuminating and enlightening. I am looking forward to his next. Some people here would not be out of place in the Eye's Pseuds Corner
        Feel free to expand on that...

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        • anotherbob
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          • Sep 2011
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          #19
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          Feel free to expand on that...
          Sorry, I have drying paint to watch.....

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          • Bryn
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            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #20
            Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
            Sorry, I have drying paint to watch.....
            Best you troll off and do that then.

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            • Stephen Whitaker

              #21
              New series starts on Saturday so at least there'll be something to watch other than "Strictly come Diving"
              The official website of Howard Goodall, CBE, the award winning British broadcaster and composer of musicals, choral music, Film and TV scores.

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by Stephen Whitaker View Post
                New series starts on Saturday so at least there'll be something to watch other than "Strictly come Diving"
                http://www.howardgoodall.co.uk/works...story-of-music
                Stephen

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                • Bryn
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Stephen Whitaker View Post
                  New series starts on Saturday so at least there'll be something to watch other than "Strictly come Diving"
                  http://www.howardgoodall.co.uk/works...story-of-music
                  Terrible audio quality in the clip offered there. I will, however, be programming the recorder to save the the broadcasts for Blu-ray storage, and possible playback.
                  Last edited by Bryn; 21-01-13, 16:42.

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                  • anotherbob
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                    • Sep 2011
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                    I found his TV series illuminating and enlightening. I am looking forward to his next. Some people here would not be out of place in the Eye's Pseuds Corner
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Feel free to expand on that...
                    Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                    Sorry, I have drying paint to watch.....
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Best you troll off and do that then.
                    It's uncanny..... How did you know I meant you

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                    • mercia
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by french frank View Post
                      Personally, I take against anyone who doesn't make any distinction between popular music and classical. Or between jazz and classical for that matter.

                      .... and are you able, in a technical sort of way, to describe what that distinction is ........ ?


                      from what I gather I think his new series partly sets out to demonstrate they are closer than we might think, and have grown out of eachother
                      Last edited by mercia; 21-01-13, 16:28.

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                      • Serial_Apologist
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                        • Dec 2010
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        .... and are you able, in a technical sort of way, to describe what that distinction is ........ ?


                        from what I gather I think his new series partly sets out to demonstrate they are closer than we may think, and have grown out of eachother
                        All three use certain harmonic and rhythmic traits in common in their construction, but to leave it at that would be grossly oversimplifying.

                        On second thoughts, I'm going to wait and see what the series itself has to say.

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                        • anotherbob
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                          • Sep 2011
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Personally, I take against anyone who doesn't make any distinction between popular music and classical. Or between jazz and classical for that matter.
                          Today I made a cake, yesterday a Shepherd's Pie; I may make a curry tomorrow. It's all food.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            • Dec 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by anotherbob View Post
                            Today I made a cake, yesterday a Shepherd's Pie; I may make a curry tomorrow. It's all food.
                            But not food for the same kinds of thinking processes...

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                            • anotherbob
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                              • Sep 2011
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              But not food for the same kinds of thinking processes...
                              I don't do a lot of thinking about food, or music. I eat (or listen) and enjoy, or not. Simple.

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                              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20570

                                #30
                                Is there something in the water or the air today that makes people attack one another? We are free to love or despise Howard Goodall's music and thoughts, but if others have different opinions from ourselves, surely that makes discussion more interesting.

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