Is true socialism possible?

[scottycelt]

Blimey , you sky fairy followers really DO divide everything into two possibilities ........

Yup, but still waiting on you earthy goblin followers to provide a possible third ...

[teamsaint]

Do they still have "policies" ?

i wouldn't have any idea, really. Their policy used to be something like this. Once.
That was before we all realised they were just like the rest, after all, and stopped paying any attention to them. Although why there was any doubt is a mystery.

[Bryn]

Do they still have "policies" ?

Of course they do. For a start there's the one to make solemn pledges, then tear them up once in office.

[teamsaint]

Of course they do. For a start there's the one to make solemn pledges, then tear them up once in office.

Is that not an aspiration, rather than a policy?

[scottycelt]

Judging by the extremely varied and and horridly, almost capitalistically individualistic contributions of some of our more enlightened members, I think we can now safely, if sadly, conclude that 'true socialism', whether possible or not, is somewhat beyond our reach 'at this moment in time', Simon ...

[Flosshilde]

So, presumably, we might have a cunning alternative tax-plan in mind that we might wish to share with interested forum members ... ?

As Mr GG indicated, you do have a tendency to see things in black & white.

It is entirely possible that most people on high incomes will stay where they are & pay higher taxes. Just because one or two idiots declare that they would leave doesn't mean that everyone would, or even those that say they would, do (rather like the ones who said they would leave if Labour was elected, & then didn't).

[Beef Oven]

(Beefy, you know this isn't that far from libdem "policy", don't you !!)

OMG! I've just realised that my suggestion is almost exactly the same as UKIP's position on taxation from their last manifesto and it will be in their next one!

[Beef Oven]

Excellent, Beefy! ... you have come up with an absolutely wonderful answer ... and justice for the poor included!

And we would almost certainly get more off those rich ******** as well!

OMG! I've just realised that my suggestion is almost exactly the same as UKIP's position on taxation from their last manifesto and it will be in their next one too!

But you're totally right Scotty, it would give justice to the poor and get more off those rich B.....ds too!!

[amateur51]

I rather like Ken, but I admit I would not have seen him as PM potential.

David Owen, on the other hand, might have made a thoroughly excellent PM ... IMHO!!

Oddly enough, The Great Man wouild probably agree with you, scotty

[MrGongGong]

OMG! I've just realised that my suggestion is almost exactly the same as UKIP's position on taxation from their last manifesto and it will be in their next one too!

But you're totally right Scotty, it would give justice to the poor and get more off those rich B.....ds too!!

Along with some other crazy fantasies
Free beer ( not Westmalle Trippel )
but sadly the demise of many of the foods which we hold dear

[Beef Oven]

Along with some other crazy fantasies
Free beer ( not Westmalle Trippel )
but sadly the demise of many of the foods which we hold dear

Justice for the poor & redistribution of wealth from the rich or cheese that about 96 English people eat?

I know what I think is more important.

[scottycelt]

As Mr GG indicated, you do have a tendency to see things in black & white.

It is entirely possible that most people on high incomes will stay where they are & pay higher taxes. Just because one or two idiots declare that they would leave doesn't mean that everyone would, or even those that say they would, do (rather like the ones who said they would leave if Labour was elected, & then didn't).

Flossie, let me try another tack. ...

A banana costs 50p in a shop owned by Mr Black. Next door in Mr White's shop a similar banana costs 20p. Okay, I hold my hands up ... after many hours of wrestling with my brain what on earth to do I eventually plump for the latter. Shameful, I know, but I simply can't find a Flossie-friendly shop owned by a Mr Brown who wouldn't disclose his price for a banana even if the shop existed.

I do feel a right idiot at times ...

[MrGongGong]

Justice for the poor & redistribution of wealth from the rich or cheese that about 96 English people eat?

I know what I think is more important.

Cheese & fish matey

YOU know it makes sense !

[Flosshilde]

I do feel a right idiot at times ...

And so you should, judging by your little story about bananas, which seems to have no relevance to a discussion of taxation.

[amateur51]

I do feel a right idiot at times ...

Self-abuse is no defence, scotty