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  • Beef Oven

    #46
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    75% hummmmmm

    are you SURE of that

    and 98% of kipper statistics (like that one) are simply just made up nonsense .................a quick search will find that one out

    and also since when did we have an "elected" government in Westminster ????
    MrGG, stop being a knob. You know full well that the UK is a parliamentary democracy and you know that our laws are made not by us, but by unelected managers in Brussels to the tune of 75%. Now stop it!!

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    • mercia
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8920

      #47
      Robert Peston seems to think HMV can continue in a slimmed-down form
      Will HMV survive in any form, and is its collapse a sign that banks are feeling more confident that they have sufficient capital to absorb losses from a rising incidence of insolvencies, which could be a precursor to stronger economic recovery?

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      • scottycelt

        #48
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        So is there ANYTHING that isn't the fault of the EU
        so why is it the fault of the EU that we in the UK allow companies to fiddle tax ?
        surely the answer to this is to harmonise tax
        I suspect Beefy may have been indulging in a spot of lighthearted, late-night 'irony', Mr GG ..

        However, you are right. In the UK, it's the EU wot gets the blame for everything at least in the press and nowadays the majority of the modern Tory party. This has always been the historic role of the Daily Express, in particular.

        Some of us are old and decrepit enough to remember horrendous front-page headlines in the 1960s warning the public of a 1/4d on a pound (lb) of butter if we joined the old Common Market. Not long after World War II this was truly scary stuff.

        You are right about Amazon and tax. If I were the financial director of Amazon I'd choose the spot where the company paid the least tax. Indeed, I'd expect to be swiftly removed from my post if I didn't.

        The responsibility for the relative emptiness of the UK's tax coffers lies squarely with successive British governments, nobody else. I continue to shop at the extremely efficient Amazon without the slightest compunction.

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        • Mr Pee
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3285

          #49
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post

          and also since when did we have an "elected" government in Westminster ????
          Ummmm.....let me think.....since the last General Election?

          MrGG, stop being a knob.
          Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

          Mark Twain.

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #50
            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
            Ummmm.....let me think.....since the last General Election?
            Try again. What we got was a negotiated, unelected, coalition of losers, just as we would have if Labour, the Lib Dems, the Green, the Nats, et al had got together instead.

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              #51
              Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
              Those bloody EU tax regulations again!!!

              Umm - Luxembourg isn't part of the EU.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #52
                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                Umm - Luxembourg isn't part of the EU.
                Eh?! It's very much at the core of the EU.

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  #53
                  Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                  I suspect Beefy may have been indulging in a spot of lighthearted, late-night 'irony', Mr GG ..
                  Indeed - I'm reminded of Lewis Carrol - 'Speak roughly to your little boy, and beat him when he sneezes. He only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases'.

                  I think the little boy in question turned into a pig & ran away.

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                  • Flosshilde
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Eh?! It's very much at the core of the EU.
                    Oops - of course it is. I must have been confusing it with one of the other minor principalities.

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                    • gradus
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 5588

                      #55
                      Today had some relatively upbeat contributions on the prospects for HMV, let's hope for the sake of the 4,500 staff that the administrators pull something together.

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                      • Mr Pee
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3285

                        #56
                        Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                        Mark Twain.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven
                          Don't tell Luxembourg, they think they have been in the EU since 1957 (then the EEC) and they think the secretariat to the European Parliament is based in Luxembourg; they think The European Court Of Justice is based there and the silly sods actually believe the European Court Of Auditors is based there!!
                          Do try and keep up, Beefy. That was dealt with some time ago.

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                          • Beef Oven

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                            Umm - Luxembourg isn't part of the EU.
                            Don't tell Luxembourg, they think they have been in the EU since 1957 (then the EEC) and they think the secretariat to the European Parliament is based in Luxembourg; they think The European Court Of Justice is based there and the silly sods actually believe the European Court Of Auditors is based there!!

                            EDIT: Point taken Bryn and thanks Just wanted to respond myself

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                            • Vile Consort
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 696

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                              Umm - Luxembourg isn't part of the EU.
                              Oh yes it is. It was one of the original six!

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                              • scottycelt

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                                Oops - of course it is. I must have been confusing it with one of the other minor principalities.
                                No, Wales is considered very much part of the EU as well, Flossie ...

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