The Ten Myths of DAB

[teamsaint]

It MAY be that FM is coming to the end of it's natural life.
It MAY be that DAB /digital will give us a brilliant broadcasting future.
it MAY be that it is entirely innocent, and that issues like DR management will benefit the consumer.
Possibly.

What is for certain is that there is little appetite for an enforced change NOW, amongst the people who are paying. And we aren't all as daft as the government would like us to be.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Mp2 DAB is rather like a 1 megapixel digital camera trying to compete with a Nikon D800. FM is like an Olympus OM1 - still good in many ways.

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Mp2 DAB is rather like a 1 megapixel digital camera trying to compete with a Nikon D800. FM is like an Olympus OM1 - still good in many ways.

Just a pity you can't get film for the OM1!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Oh dear. Are all those photo shops and chemists fraudulently selling fake 35mm film?

I'm searching for the :extremely smug: emoticon.

[Resurrection Man]

I would have thought that my numerous references to the report right from post #11 onwards made it perfectly clear that I have it. And, given the abuse which started immediately after my #11 post, I'm not going to grace the oposition with the link to it (which is a trivial find anyway).

.....

I just had to peek to see what excuse you had come up with.

You haven't produced the link. Because there is no link.

You have been caught out for telling porkies. No guts to admit you haven't got the link.

You know it. We know it.

Your future posts will be viewed with that in mind.

Bye bye.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Here's a link for anyone wishing to buy 35 mm film

[MrGongGong]

Here's a link for anyone wishing to buy 35 mm film

This might be useful as well

http://www.phonographcylinders.com/

[An_Inspector_Calls]

RM
Nice. Well, in the same spirit, I look forward to your debate with Ford Ennals, but I'm not holding my breath since you're just a blowhard, have been throughout.

I'll expect you back for the last insult.

[mangerton]

Here's a link for anyone wishing to buy 35 mm film

Thanks, EA. It's good to see that I can still get film for my OM1 (and OM10!), as it's a few years since I have done so. Jessops still supply, too.

On a related note, I had a slight problem in finding a suitable battery for the OM1, after some elfin safety character decreed that mercury was Dangerous to the Public. However, I discovered the aptly named Small Battery Company who were able to supply a suitable substitute.

Great to see that there is still a demand for these old products and services, and reassuring that suppliers are still around to meet it.

I hope that the same continues to apply to FM!

[An_Inspector_Calls]

So there are redactions in the publically available PWC report. Strange, because the document was initiated and paid for by a government body and should therefore be subject to any FOI requests So just what are the redactions in the report?

FOI requests can be ducked if they are into issues of public security or in the private domain. The redactions are explained by looking at the objective of the PWC report. It was to produce a cost benefit anaylsis of DAB migration from FM as seen by UK PLC. It therefore covers both public service and commercial sectors of digital and analogue broadcasting.

What’s been redacted? Not a lot. I count 19 main redactions, all of quantitative, commercial data: 7 detailing FM/DAB present (2009) and future coverage (section 4.1.6); 12 detailing commercial costings (section 6.2.1). There are other redactions, but these are consequential on these (cross references to sources, or second quotes of earlier data). All of the redactions have occurred because they'd reveal commercially sensitive data.

Do the redactions reduce the value of the document? Hardly at all.

The coverage data is available in many other documents, both public sector and commercial (see #19). Redacting this data seems a little precious. And in figure 9, 10 and 11 (unredacted) we have all the information we need about projected digital and analogue listening. Which provide the working basis for the financial analysis.

The redacted financial data is all in section 6.2.1 dealing with changes in analogue and digital transmission costs. Table 14 has nearly all its data redacted because they display the costs provided by firms such as DigitalOne. But table 14 totals the costs in the digital and analogue columns, and those figures are not redacted (£64mpa and £87.9mpa respectively, whence the claim challenged in myth 7). The total figures provide all the data we really need.

As I pointed out in #110 the report doesn’t give any detailed modelling, merely describes the structure of the model. If you want to challenge the report, you’ll need the government (PWC) spreadsheet or produce your own costings. The latter is what’s happening in the wind industry debate – I don’t see it happening in the DAB/FM debate. Oponents to the DAB change need some firm objection other than 'I like FM and I don't want to change' .

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Just noticed that the mythical web site (of #1 fame) has a button for 'so what can I do ?'.

Apparently very little, because the web site author has left the link as a dead end. A bit like the future of FM then.

[amateur51]

Oponents to the DAB change need some firm objection other than 'I like FM and I don't want to change' .

What about 'it's not broken so why fix it'?

[Bryn]

Just noticed that the mythical web site (of #1 fame) has a button for 'so what can I do ?'.

Apparently very little, because the web site author has left the link as a dead end. A bit like the future of FM then.

What it actually links to is:

Feel free to link to this website


Tell as many people as you can about this website and why the Government wants them to waste money buying unnecessary new radios. In their homes AND in their cars.


Write to your MP. It might not make any difference but we can but try.


Start a Facebook campaign.


Write to the press.


DO SOMETHING

[Flosshilde]

Just noticed that the mythical web site (of #1 fame) has a button for 'so what can I do ?'.

Apparently very little, because the web site author has left the link as a dead end. A bit like the future of FM then.

How can the website be 'mythical' if it has a button you can click on, dead end or not?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It sounds a bit like "mythical" 35mm film. The difference between this and DAB is that consumers relished the benefits of chemical-free photography, but don't see any benefit in changing to an already outdated technology.