Police commissioners - did you vote?

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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #31
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    you have quoted me out of context, and missed out my hilarious side splitter, Mr GG.
    I got it no problem........
    no need to pork

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    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 9173

      #32
      nope
      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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      • David Samuels

        #33
        I voted only because otherwise I should have no grounds on which to complain of the outcome. Perhaps, one day, someone will suggest a turnout level below which the election can be declared null and void on the grounds of "not quorate".

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        • 3rd Viennese School

          #34
          I read all the leaflets that came through my door so I could vote accordingly.

          Oh hang on. There were NO leaflets!!


          So no. I didn’t vote.

          3VS

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          • mangerton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3346

            #35
            Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
            No - because Scotland won't have them. We will have a single force for the whole country, which I think is an equally silly idea.



            Later post:

            He (Cameron) did look a bit shifty, as if he'd been caught smoking a fag behind the Eton bike shed.
            I think that's a politician's normal expression, isn't it?

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            • Dave2002
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 18013

              #36
              I think we had one card and one leaflet. Finding information seemed to require us to search in order to find this site - http://www.choosemypcc.org.uk/candidates/area/surrey So far no results have been announced for many of the areas.

              I agree with ff that if someone is going to be elected anyway we should at least try to exert some control.

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              • MrGongGong
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 18357

                #37
                Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                I agree with ff that if someone is going to be elected anyway we should at least try to exert some control.
                I'm more of the view that (as with things like the National Plan for Music Education) we should stop acting like English people in a restaurant when presented with something we
                1: didn't order
                2: is badly cooked
                3: isn't something we like anyway
                and say "oh well , it could have been much worse"
                there is another option which is to SEND IT BACK
                which in this farce means (as we have no "none of the above" option) to be a "spoiled paper"

                I voted only because otherwise I should have no grounds on which to complain of the outcome.
                I'm not sure that this (which is what ALL political parties peddle) is true at all. Those who don't vote are demonstrating something (though I prefer the "spoilt paper" option myself as it has a moment of physical release)

                like wot John Said

                "I have nothing to say, and I am saying it"
                Last edited by MrGongGong; 16-11-12, 12:19.

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22118

                  #38
                  Originally posted by David Samuels View Post
                  I voted only because otherwise I should have no grounds on which to complain of the outcome. Perhaps, one day, someone will suggest a turnout level below which the election can be declared null and void on the grounds of "not quorate".
                  Surely whether a vote is cast or not we can still complain about the outcome ie that Police Commissioners are appointed at all. This government of our country which is supposed to be internationally in debt can continually spend money on fixing things that aren't broken suopposedly applying democratic process to achieve non-democratic results.

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                  • ahinton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    #39
                    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                    Surely whether a vote is cast or not we can still complain about the outcome ie that Police Commissioners are appointed at all. This government of our country which is supposed to be internationally in debt can continually spend money on fixing things that aren't broken suopposedly applying democratic process to achieve non-democratic results.
                    The first sentence is entirely correct. The second is so only to the extent that what isn't being - and almost certainly will never properly be - fixed by this initiative is at least partially (though by no means wholly) broken.

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                    • Paul Sherratt

                      #40
                      It's clearly going to be a landslide verdict.

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Paul Sherratt View Post
                        It's clearly going to be a landslide verdict.
                        According to this (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8323275.html) there were some polling stations where NO ONE turned up to vote
                        which to me (anarchist lefty atonal troublemaker that I obviously am ) was what I would consider a clear message

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30264

                          #42
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          According to this (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8323275.html) there were some polling stations where NO ONE turned up to vote
                          which to me (anarchist lefty atonal troublemaker that I obviously am ) was what I would consider a clear message
                          "Professor John Curtice, a polling expert and professor of politics at Strathclyde University, said the turnout, which could be the worst in any national election ever, would raise questions over the legitimacy of the vote. Curtice said that voters had been left “struggling” to choose candidates after they all promised much the same thing."

                          Same with the mayoral election: at least we shall have lots and lots of lovely new jobs and a decent transport system at last, whoever the new mayor is ...
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • Paul Sherratt

                            #43
                            Mr GG, atonal as well ? Very, very scary !
                            There will have to a be cost per vote calculation carried out to see how this compares with BBC Radio 3 listener figures.


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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25205

                              #44
                              Candidates all promising much the same thing...................hard to believe !!
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • subcontrabass
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 2780

                                #45
                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                In Bristol we were also voting for our first mayor - last May a massive 14%(?) of the electorate voted in favour of having one and, as usual, the result was decided by the non-voters (the vote was held in the one year when we had no other elections so hardly anyone remembered.)
                                12.867% in favour, 11.251% against.

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