By Gove:Not just 2 for a £....I'll give you 4

[eighthobstruction]

>>>"the barriers which sap energy and prevent people being as effective as they can be so that less time is wasted on activities which add little value".<<<<

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20324346

Gove sets out to recieve extra gold stars from Cameron....

[gingerjon]

I stand by my earlier stated position re: Gove's face and an endless slapping machine.

[MrGongGong]

>>>"the barriers which sap energy and prevent people being as effective as they can be so that less time is wasted on activities which add little value".<<<<

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-20324346

Gove sets out to recieve extra gold stars from Cameron....

did you also see this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-thriving-schools-to-close-to-make-room-for-academies-8313131.html

[teamsaint]

did you also see this

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8313131.html

if we still has asylums we would certainly have the right people to run them.....

[eighthobstruction]

Ref Bedford Schools....very disingenuous answer from DfE....

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Recently, Gove tried to be diplomatic and smart by apologising to one of his old teachers in the Radio Times.

Perhaps he should follow that by apologising to all the teachers he is tormenting now by his utter incompetence.

[Flosshilde]

"The review found that the DfE has committed and hard-working staff producing high quality work," so we are going to de-stabilise & demoralise them by cutting them by 50%. At a time when the government is taking responsibility for schools away from local authorities & centralising it, which some might think puts greater demands on the department. Except that they are "cutting red tape", so the academies & free schools will be able to do what they like.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Academies are an accident waiting to happen.

Correction - already happening.

[MrGongGong]

Academies are an accident waiting to happen.

Correction - already happening.

You know , we will never agree about Elgar
but it's nice to come together in incandescent rage from time to time (Adnams Broadside )

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Gove, with his cuts is one thing, but his championing of rote learnuing and exams and factual knowledge is another .... his claims that his policy are based in cognitive science is pure baloney ... try Gardner's The Unschoold Mind Mr Gove!

what they are based in is the back to the future ideology of the posh boys ... back to Victorian education, Victorian slums and Victorian free enterprise ... and the workhouse ...

[teamsaint]

Personally, I find it helpful to remember that what gove and the posh boys are doing is always based in fear. fear of losing their position, fear for their class, fear that other people may be more capable than them.

That is why, for instance, they love arguments that people are at the top because they are genetically superior...it gives them a (false) certainty, which helps to shield them from their inner fears.

Nothing lasts for ever. In 1987, who would have predicted the fall of the Soviet empire within 5 years?

[handsomefortune]

always based in fear. fear of losing their position, fear for their class, fear that other people may be more capable than them.

That is why, for instance, they love arguments that people are at the top because they are genetically superior...it gives them a (false) certainty, which helps to shield them from their inner fears.

Nothing lasts for ever. In 1987, who would have predicted the fall of the Soviet empire within 5 years?

definitely fits my impression of some responses to twitter on tonight's moral maze on r4. vaste quantities of people being described as 'filth' 'low life' etc......the railway enthusiast sounded quite rattled!

[MrGongGong]

definitely fits my impression of some responses to twitter on tonight's moral maze on r4. vaste quantities of people being described as 'filth' 'low life' etc......the railway enthusiast sounded quite rattled!

I heard the end of this while washing up
what was mildly amusing was the fact that the whole Twitter / Facebook thing is so obviously convenient yet dodgy and at the end the only way the BBC thinks we should engage is by sending "tweets" or signing up for data mining on Stalkerbook

but returning to mrG (not my dad )
is there ANYONE who will defend him ?

Simon ? Mr Pee ? Bankers Mate ? ?????

[Simon]

"Simon ?"

I wouldn't waste my time defending him, for two very good reasons.

The first is that I don't know enough about the subject, as I expect nobody else on here does, to make a judgement of how efficient or ineffiecient the DfE is and how many staff/jobs are irrelevant and/or could be cut without adverse effect. My (fairly wide) experience of the way that civil services and bureaucrats operate has led me to have a fairly cynical view of them, not so much as regards their abilities but as regards the way they manage to manufacture more and more jobs for themselves. But that's a general observation.

The second is that reading through above, it's abundantly clear that those who have posted have done so primarily because they disklike everything about this government and see this as yet another stick to wave, so not once has there been any attempt at a logical or reasoned explanation as to why Mr Gove may be wrong to do what he has suggested. And sp despite my personal "cyber-liking" for some of you, I for one am happy in this instance to leave you to your prejudices and conspiracy theories and hope that the expression of them has made you feel a bit happier!

[teamsaint]

Simon. I dislike the things that gove(and other ministers )are doing .

End of.
They are doing what they do because they have a world view that they want to implement, and a class interest that they are defending, in my opinion.
It is very important to judge them on their actions, not their words.