The Future of the BBC

[handsomefortune]

All RIGHT - three times then.

don't worry kernelbogey!

maybe you are just experiencing an entwistle moment ....: can't remember things you normally remember, in your case, perhaps there are too many names, especially from the mass media, to have to recall....and especially once things get historical!

it's alright for these 'modern people' who select other peoples errors then google correct answers ...(possibly imply that they remembered all on their own)

anyway, back on topic, other comparable high profile resignations ....and the future of aunty.

ultimate responsibility is a notoriously tricky thing to handle...as it looks as if you have nowt to do until something goes really badly wrong...then, you may well be in a sudden state of mental over drive, complete with a mind so frenzied with stress that memory is often the first thing to suffer.....and in public! i remember that thompson looked exactly this way when publicly interviewed by an ancient crime writer in her 90s, who ran rings round the dg!

it's apparently all about how you handle the sheer panic of responsibility....some do so fantastically as 'professionals', but then might be brilliant actors as 'professionals'....and quite dislikeable, possibly even untrustworthy fakers in less contentious daily situations, out of the spotlight.

should any one person EVER have to wholly carry the can? why are there supposedly masses of senior management at aunty, and yet the dg is on his/(her)? own when push comes to shove?

personally, i'd choose entwistle, rather than the chap from itv and/or the provisional dg currently having total responsibility for aunty's errors & technological triumphs.

ideally, i'd prefer there was a second mini scandal..... mishandled by tim...(if aunty could just take yet more strain..it might be worthwhile in the long run)!?

i read that thompson started his new job in ny yesterday.... unlike many of his ex colleagues, at least thompson hasn't started up an independent production company employed by the beeb though. he's doing somethin' else instead.

the latest drama draws attention to the remoteness of official beeb power at senior level in relation to independent production companies that the beeb hires to make its programmes. this also makes me remember the strikes, last year, by bbc world service employees whose jobs were then under threat, posts now completely deleted. as well as more recent news that 'the strand' is also now under threat.

yet when i try to imagine who'd make a good dg in future ....my mind goes blank. the irony of the public having no say manifests in a particularly ugly way....and bearing in mind, that the public do not always make great decisions. i don't know beeb staff...let alone the structures and knowledge a replacement dg might need.

if it was up to me, i think i'd choose roger mcgough for dg ....!!! not that he'd want the job in a million years - ! but at a time when chauvinism, ageism and bluff seem to be making a big come back, even within our psb, at least i can say with suitable conviction i would definitely trust roger mcgough 100%, he would alter the perspective on 'the future'....at least image-wise!

[Lateralthinking1]

personally, i'd choose entwistle, rather than the chap from itv and/or the provisional dg currently having total responsibility for aunty's errors & technological triumphs.

That would be Tim who was in the third or fourth year when I was in the upper sixth. I don't recall him but then I don't recall Andy Duncan either and he was allegedly in the same year as me.

Most of the time I felt adrift in a sea of Cameronesque accents. It was therefore quite a shocker yesterday to hear what sounded rather like mockney. Still, if he can cope with the "omnishambles" I stand ready to be a supporter.

[Serial_Apologist]

don't worry kernelbogey!

maybe you are just experiencing an entwistle moment ....: can't remember things you normally remember, in your case, perhaps there are too many names, especially from the mass media, to have to recall....and especially once things get historical!

it's alright for these 'modern people' who select other peoples errors then google correct answers ...(possibly imply that they remembered all on their own)

anyway, back on topic, other comparable high profile resignations ....and the future of aunty.

ultimate responsibility is a notoriously tricky thing to handle...as it looks as if you have nowt to do until something goes really badly wrong...then, you may well be in a sudden state of mental over drive, complete with a mind so frenzied with stress that memory is often the first thing to suffer.....and in public! i remember that thompson looked exactly this way when publicly interviewed by an ancient crime writer in her 90s, who ran rings round the dg!

it's apparently all about how you handle the sheer panic of responsibility....some do so fantastically as 'professionals', but then might be brilliant actors as 'professionals'....and quite dislikeable, possibly even untrustworthy fakers in less contentious daily situations, out of the spotlight.

should any one person EVER have to wholly carry the can? why are there supposedly masses of senior management at aunty, and yet the dg is on his/(her)? own when push comes to shove?

personally, i'd choose entwistle, rather than the chap from itv and/or the provisional dg currently having total responsibility for aunty's errors & technological triumphs.

ideally, i'd prefer there was a second mini scandal..... mishandled by tim...(if aunty could just take yet more strain..it might be worthwhile in the long run)!?

i read that thompson started his new job in ny yesterday.... unlike many of his ex colleagues, at least thompson hasn't started up an independent production company employed by the beeb though. he's doing somethin' else instead.

the latest drama draws attention to the remoteness of official beeb power at senior level in relation to independent production companies that the beeb hires to make its programmes. this also makes me remember the strikes, last year, by bbc world service employees whose jobs were then under threat, posts now completely deleted. as well as more recent news that 'the strand' is also now under threat.

yet when i try to imagine who'd make a good dg in future ....my mind goes blank. the irony of the public having no say manifests in a particularly ugly way....and bearing in mind, that the public do not always make great decisions. i don't know beeb staff...let alone the structures and knowledge a replacement dg might need.

if it was up to me, i think i'd choose roger mcgough for dg ....!!! not that he'd want the job in a million years - ! but at a time when chauvinism, ageism and bluff seem to be making a big come back, even within our psb, at least i can say with suitable conviction i would definitely trust roger mcgough 100%, he would alter the perspective on 'the future'....at least image-wise!

That's why the likes of you or I would never get a look in - it takes superhuman qualities to qualify able to deal with all the one-the-one-hand, on-the-others worthy of the salaries and golden handshakes over skepticism about the aspirational value thereof.

[Paul Sherratt]

Perhaps a job - share arrangement could be agreed. Saner members of this forum + Roger McGough ?

[Sydney Grew]

. . . Listen to an hour of the World Service and consider the deep and lasting influence it has had on individuals and indeed regimes around the world. I value it more highly than Trident. . . .

That is a view very much of the past. For years now the World Service has been presenting nothing but "sport" and vulgar voyeurisms. Definitely no longer worth the turning on.

[amateur51]

That is a view very much of the past. For years now the World Service has been presenting nothing but "sport" and vulgar voyeurisms. Definitely not worth the turning on.

That's simply not true, in my experience. I listen to it throughout the night & it is a splendid, interesting, quirky companion, so much so that I've had to keep pen & paper by my bed to make a note of 'things to follow up' the next day

[Lateralthinking1]

That is a view very much of the past. For years now the World Service has been presenting nothing but "sport" and vulgar voyeurisms. Definitely no longer worth the turning on.

Whereas in the good old days, Aung San Suu Kyi had the benefit of listening to DLT from the other side of the world.

[Paul Sherratt]

And he had the biggest audience, Lat ! ( I think )

[Serial_Apologist]

he ( I think )

Shurely Shome Mishtake...

[Lateralthinking1]

And he had the biggest audience, Lat ! ( I think )

Yes, on CB radio.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

evidence on Trust

In short, something deeper is going on, that goes beyond the individual scandals involving journalism, war, government, MPs' expenses, bureaucracy, banking and the police. They seem to have combined to create a growing impression that virtually all those in positions of leadership are cynically in it for themselves, and less concerned with truth and the public good than they used to be – or we used to think.

The real lesson from our surveys over the past 10 years is that the task of rebuilding trust goes far, far wider than the BBC alone.

an omni-omnishambles then

[Paul Sherratt]

Lat,
Nope, on world service. A presenter of a rival world service music broadcast told me !

[Serial_Apologist]

I still happen to think Lenin was right in stating that a revolutionary situation arises when the ruling class are unable to rule, and the masses unprepared to be ruled, in the same ways, and imo trust must play a massive part in this question of legitimacy.

Thatcher & co knew exactly what they were doing when they set about undermining means of solidarity whereby working people can combat exploitation - a process which continues to this day.

[teamsaint]

I still happen to think Lenin was right in stating that a revolutionary situation arises when the ruling class are unable to rule, and the masses unprepared to be ruled, in the same ways, and imo trust must play a massive part in this question of legitimacy.

Thatcher & co knew exactly what they were doing when they set about undermining means of solidarity whereby working people can combat exploitation - a process which continues to this day.

Spot on. They are still dismantling or privatising anything that can be seen as a home for solidarity, rights, opposition.
Collective pay agreements. The Post office. Anything free at the point of use, including roads, The NHS...., add your own.

[Lateralthinking1]

Lat,
Nope, on world service. A presenter of a rival world service music broadcast told me !

Charlie? He really should have made a novelty record and found a hilarious catchphrase.