Goodbye Clive Dunn, thanks for the laughs

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  • salymap
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 5969

    #16
    I've started watching the weekend broadcast after a long break from it. Some programmmes are better than others but it's lovely that it's still appreciated by most of us. RIP Clive Dunn.

    Someone mentioned Thetford earlier. Ibelieve they have a statue of Mainwaring there. How many statues are there of sitcom characters?
    Last edited by salymap; 08-11-12, 07:34.

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30256

      #17
      Originally posted by Boilk View Post
      I would lump Dad's Army with Last of the Summer Wine as the most boring sitcoms ever put out by the BBC
      To write it off as just a 'sitcom' - where the interest lies principally in the situation and storyline - is to fail to appreciate the writers' comic creations in the characters themselves and the way the actors brought them to life. The 'situation' is (not wishing to downplay it too much) just the additional interest. The appeal lies in the characters and the actors, each week in a slightly different context but always reacting consistently.

      Of course, if you didn't think the characters were funny ...
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26524

        #18
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        To write it off as just a 'sitcom' - where the interest lies principally in the situation and storyline - is to fail to appreciate the writers' comic creations in the characters themselves and the way the actors brought them to life. The 'situation' is (not wishing to downplay it too much) just the additional interest. The appeal lies in the characters and the actors, each week in a slightly different context but always reacting consistently.

        Of course, if you didn't think the characters were funny ...

        Exactly.... I can't believe anyone wouldn't find Arthur Lowe's 'Mainwaring' funny, the perfect incarnation of a particular kind of Englishman... well, of human being.. self-important, pompous but at the same time sound.

        The episode (a Christmas special) where he plays in addition the rôle of Mainwaring's disreputable drunken brother 'Barry' is comic sublimity.

        - Mainwaring checks waistcoat fob watch on its chain
        - Barry: Don't pull too hard, you'll flush yourself....

        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Mary Chambers
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1963

          #19
          I avoided Dad's Army for a long time. I didn't think anything with 'army' in the title was likely to appeal to me. Then one day I saw an episode and was converted at once. The 'army' part is almost incidental. It's about people and their idiosyncrasies, and above all, I think. about British class sensitivities, always fascinating and the stuff of much good comedy.

          RIP Clive, and don't panic!

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          • salymap
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 5969

            #20
            Originally posted by salymap View Post
            I've started watching the weekend broadcast after a long break from it. Some programmmes are better than others but it's lovely that it's still appreciated by most of us. RIP Clive Dunn.

            Someone mentioned Thetford earlier. Ibelieve they have a statue of Mainwaring there. How many statues are there of sitcom characters?
            I love the programme and have a relative near Thetford who told me about the statue. Sorry if 'sitcom' annoyed. But ifit is not a 'situation comedy'of the very best kind, what one word describes it?
            Last edited by salymap; 08-11-12, 09:58.

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              #21
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post

              I can't believe anyone wouldn't find Arthur Lowe's 'Mainwaring' funny, the perfect incarnation of a particular kind of Englishman
              Though the acting is great
              and it's sad to see someone so widely loved die
              I'm a bit relieved that i'm not alone in finding Dad's Army devoid of humour
              even first time round for me (in the 1970's) I found it tedious (though not as much as Last of The Summer Wine which has ruined Holmfirth )

              still it's fine for those who like it .................

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              • mangerton
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3346

                #22
                Yes, an excellent programme, once the appalling sig tune is over. That reference to "Old England" still grates after all these years. We were, after all, all in it together.

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post

                Exactly.... I can't believe anyone wouldn't find Arthur Lowe's 'Mainwaring' funny, the perfect incarnation of a particular kind of Englishman... well, of human being.. self-important, pompous but at the same time sound.

                The episode (a Christmas special) where he plays in addition the rôle of Mainwaring's disreputable drunken brother 'Barry' is comic sublimity.

                - Mainwaring checks waistcoat fob watch on its chain
                - Barry: Don't pull too hard, you'll flush yourself....

                Quite! Does anyone here remember Arthur Lowe in "Potter", exactly the same sort of character?

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                • amateur51

                  #23
                  I think Clive Dunn's creation of Corporal Jones is comic gold. The script helps of course but after a few episodes, which came first I wonder?

                  I often mutter "Don't Panic" to myself when my debit card is awaiting verification at a check-out - it's reassuring how many young people grin when I do :smile:

                  Many thanks Clive


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                  • amateur51

                    #24
                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    Though the acting is great
                    and it's sad to see someone so widely loved die
                    I'm a bit relieved that i'm not alone in finding Dad's Army devoid of humour
                    even first time round for me (in the 1970's) I found it tedious (though not as much as Last of The Summer Wine which has ruined Holmfirth )

                    still it's fine for those who like it .................
                    I only truly appreciated Last of the Summer Wine when I retired and acquired a small group of gay male friends of the same vintage & older.

                    We often go out for a late morning/early afternoon of Coffee - Gallery - Pub - Cheap Lunch - Home for a snooze and the arrangement is known as Last of The Summer Wine

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                    • MrGongGong
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      #25
                      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                      I only truly appreciated Last of the Summer Wine when I retired and acquired a small group of gay male friends of the same vintage & older.

                      We often go out for a late morning/early afternoon of Coffee - Gallery - Pub - Cheap Lunch - Home for a snooze and the arrangement is known as Last of The Summer Wine
                      Aren't they what are known as "camp followers" ?

                      (but the might not all be , of course )

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                      • amateur51

                        #26
                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Aren't they what are known as "camp followers" ?

                        (but the might not all be , of course )
                        Oh we have our moments, especially when we need to get a bit of space in the pub

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                        • Nick Armstrong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26524

                          #27
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Oh we have our moments, especially when we need to get a bit of space in the pub






                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920

                            #28
                            at the risk of trying to be serious about a comedy programme, what I found interesting about the Corporal Jones character was that he was born probably in the 1860's and fought in the Sudan in the 1880's and talked about Gordon of Khartoum and the fuzzy-wuzzies; and at a pinch his grandfather may even have been born in the 18th century.

                            .....the historical link, if you follow me .............
                            Last edited by mercia; 09-11-12, 06:53.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #29
                              They don't like it up 'em!

                              RIP Corperal Jones aka Clive Dunn
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26524

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                                at the risk of trying to be serious about a comedy programme, what I found interesting about the Corporal Jones character was that he was born probably in the 1860's and fought in the Sudan in the 1880's and talked about Gordon of Khartoum and the fuzzy-wuzzies; and at a pinch his grandfather may even have been born in the 18th century.

                                .....the historical link, if you get me .............
                                Indeed, and I'd vaguely thought about it without ever having established a chronology.

                                I see the Battle of Omdurman which Cpl. Jones often mutters about was on 2 September 1898... the "Mad Mahdi" etc etc...
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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