Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

[jean]

And never forget that in English, 'liberal' means (more or less) left-leaning and well-intentioned - whereas in French 'liberal' means right-wing, neo-con, fascist...

And then there's neoliberal, which means pretty well the opposite of what liberal means in English, and a lot more like what it means in French.

[MrGongGong]

Well, I have nothing to do with the far right, hardly anything to do with Protestantism, having outgrown it at an early age, and very little to do with Northern Ireland, having only been there once. .

No need to be SARC-eey

[Richard Barrett]

No need to be SARC-eey

Yessss... I was going to say no prizes for guessing where exactly I was on that one visit.

[MrGongGong]

Yessss... I was going to say no prizes for guessing where exactly I was on that one visit.

BINGO

[P. G. Tipps]

I just liked the sound of "the church of Rome"

Ah-hah ... precisely the problem, Mr Barrett!

[P. G. Tipps]

Yessss... I was going to say no prizes for guessing where exactly I was on that one visit.

South Antrim Royal Constabulary ... ?

[Serial_Apologist]

And then there's neoliberal, which means pretty well the opposite of what liberal means in English, and a lot more like what it means in French.

Neoliberalism, so-called, might arguably be closer to classical economic liberalism, as Wiki-defined:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

I feel a potentially stimulating discussion on conservative liberalism - acceptance of liberal (as in another definition of laisser-faire) values on eg employment and minority rights, on the grounds that groups once upon a time marginalised as scapegoats useful for purposes of legitimising the status quo and having a pool of unemployed to encourage wage restraint have been superseded by virtue of said groups having become part of the consumer demographic, whenever it suits the capitalist class, of course. But something tells me such a discussion would not be allowed to last long, on this forum.

[ahinton]

Neoliberalism, so-called, might arguably be closer to classical economic liberalism, as Wiki-defined:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

I feel a potentially stimulating discussion on conservative liberalism - acceptance of liberal (as in another definition of laisser-faire) values on eg employment and minority rights, on the grounds that groups once upon a time marginalised as scapegoats useful for purposes of legitimising the status quo and having a pool of unemployed to encourage wage restraint have been superseded by virtue of said groups having become part of the consumer demographic, whenever it suits the capitalist class, of course. But something tells me such a discussion would not be allowed to last long, on this forum.

Indeed - but then "neo(-)liberalism"'s not perhaps so different from all those other "neo"s or "new"s (such as "new complexity", "neo-Nazi", "new musicology" et al) in that, by definition, it's set up to become old hat given enough time (although perhaps the Oxford English Tippsionary might disagree)...

[greenilex]

I too like the sound of the Church of Rome.

But I wouldn't waste an epistle on them.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

EVERYONE wants to do . . .

[P. G. Tipps]

EVERYONE wants to do . . .

Are you blessed with a teenage daughter by any chance, EA ... ?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Are you blessed with a teenage daughter by any chance, EA ... ?

She was a teenager once, and she did indeed say that on many occasions.

[french frank]

What do people make of 'seeing as' (BBC News story 'But seeing as there are 132 rooms in total …')? I would use 'considering that' and don't really buy the explanation that people do a syllable count when deciding which to use - both have only a single stressed syllable, anyway ('sid'ring that'). I would have regarded it as an 'education marker' at one time but would it now be people's preferred phrase?

[Lat-Literal]

What do people make of 'seeing as' (BBC News story 'But seeing as there are 132 rooms in total …')? I would use 'considering that' and don't really buy the explanation that people do a syllable count when deciding which to use - both have only a single stressed syllable, anyway ('sid'ring that'). I would have regarded it as an 'education marker' at one time but would it now be people's preferred phrase?

"In view of the fact that" which isn't at all elegant but recognizes and conveys it unequivocally as solid truth rather than involving personal perspective.

(Sure there's a view but it is broad in application with the fact so emphasised that any concept of we/us would almost be in the fact's view - see also "in light of there being")

[Pulcinella]

Given that?