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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
    Just what is the objection to "anytime soon"?
    I have no idea! Is there a similar "problem" with "any day now"?
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      There is surely a difference between -

      "I won't be doing that anytime soon"

      and

      "I won't be doing that in the near future"
      I have trouble defining a difference. Can anyone assist?

      I think the objection to 'any time soon' is that it has acquired a rather jangling catch-phrase quality due to overuse of late.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • subcontrabass
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2780

        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
        I have no problem with 'anytime soon'.

        There is surely a difference between -

        "I won't be doing that anytime soon"

        and

        "I won't be doing that in the near future"

        Just what is the objection to "anytime soon"?
        In that context there is an implication that "anytime soon" is redundant.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          I don't see how anyone can claim it's redundant - surely the objection is rather that its meaning could be better expressed by something more serious and more...well...English.

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          ...'anytime soon' is only 'funny' in a kind of arch sense ('Listen to me saying 'anytime soon' ho, ho'). Post-modern irony. And how annoying is THAT?...
          It's only post-modern irony now that it's been pored over and picked apart by this thread. Before that, it was just something people said, in a light-hearted and unselfconscious sort of way.

          (I prefer any time soon, though.)

          .
          Last edited by jean; 19-10-15, 16:08.

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          • vinteuil
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12788

            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            I have trouble defining a difference. Can anyone assist?.
            "I won't be doing that any time soon" has the implication that - probably, or at least quite possibly - I won't ever be doing it. Hence subcontra's "redundant".

            "I won't be doing that in the near future" doesn't seem to have such implicature - I'm not doing it immediately, but I might do it later.

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            • jean
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
              "I won't be doing that any time soon" has the implication that - probably, or at least quite possibly - I won't ever be doing it. Hence subcontra's "redundant".
              I think you're probably right - but that's quite a chunk of meaning to be so readily dismissed!

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26523

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                "I won't be doing that any time soon" has the implication that - probably, or at least quite possibly - I won't ever be doing it. Hence subcontra's "redundant".

                "I won't be doing that in the near future" doesn't seem to have such implicature - I'm not doing it immediately, but I might do it later.
                Helpful, yes, thanks vindepays. Although I think context and tone of voice could deliver the same implication with the latter phrase: e.g. on seeing someone perform a dangerous stunt - "I won't be doing that in the near future" implying "never"....
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Padraig
                  Full Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 4226

                  I'm quite astonished by the volume of comment on my choice of phrase that sets my teeth on edge. Who would have thought it could have sparked such wit and wisdom. For myself, it is a phrase that drips too easily from the lips of television reporters who have to conclude their piece; it's a cliché like the tin hat, the wellies, or the high visibility jacket. It just..... sets my teeth on edge. However, I don't think I'll risk rocking the boat again for a while, certainly not in the next few hours or days.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                    I'm quite astonished by the volume of comment on my choice of phrase that sets my teeth on edge. Who would have thought it could have sparked such wit and wisdom. For myself, it is a phrase that drips too easily from the lips of television reporters who have to conclude their piece; it's a cliché like the tin hat, the wellies, or the high visibility jacket. It just..... sets my teeth on edge. However, I don't think I'll risk rocking the boat again for a while, certainly not in the next few hours or days.
                    Oh no, Padraig, No!! The whole point of this Thread is to rock boats - keep 'em coming.
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      "Keep 'em coming!"
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • P. G. Tipps
                        Full Member
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 2978

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Oh no, Padraig, No!! The whole point of this Thread is to rock boats - keep 'em coming.
                        Absolutely!

                        And if we manage to sink a posh liner so much the better ...

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                        • P. G. Tipps
                          Full Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2978

                          'So much the better!'

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30245

                            Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                            I'm quite astonished by the volume of comment on my choice of phrase that sets my teeth on edge. Who would have thought it could have sparked such wit and wisdom. For myself, it is a phrase that drips too easily from the lips of television reporters who have to conclude their piece; it's a cliché like the tin hat, the wellies, or the high visibility jacket. It just..... sets my teeth on edge. However, I don't think I'll risk rocking the boat again for a while, certainly not in the next few hours or days.
                            Ha,ha! - your fatal mistake was to put the phrase in inverted commas - from which inferences were drawn, possibly well beyond what was intended
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26523

                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              My earlier objection to the verb curate was to its use in recent broadcasting etc media meaning 'to programme a concert / a series of concerts'.
                              You are not alone - master of the period keyboard Mahan Esfahani has just posted this on his facebook page:
                              Just so you don't all think I'm a big softie...if I see one more person referring to their activities in organising a simple concert as "curating" (especially if it's in a car park or a cellar) then I'm going to barbecue one of those kittens.

                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • gradus
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 5603

                                'I completely think ............'

                                Occasionally crops up and I wish it wouldn't.

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