Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
    Porters? What are they?
    A bit like Stouts, aren't they?
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
      Porters? What are they?

      (BTW, for those wondering why I don't use the Paddington route, it's 'cos I live 20 miles short of the great city of Exeter and the Waterloo route involves less car-driving and parking.)

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      • P. G. Tipps
        Full Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 2978

        Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
        Back on thread for a moment, there's a new buzz word going the rounds -DECONFLICTION. Apparently it's hoped that this deconflicting will bring piece to the Middle East if used properly, but
        unfortunately nobody knows quite how.
        Nobody indeed ... and, yes, 'deconfliction' .... it sounds very much like another Bushism to me, so it just has (like just about everything else, these days) to have originated from across the 'pond'?

        Safe bet!

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        • visualnickmos
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3609

          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
          Nobody indeed ... and, yes, 'deconfliction' .... it sounds very much like another Bushism to me, so it just has (like just about everything else, these days) to have originated from across the 'pond'?

          Safe bet!
          Yes - sounds like b******s to me as well......

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30245

            Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
            Nobody indeed ... and, yes, 'deconfliction' .... it sounds very much like another Bushism to me, so it just has (like just about everything else, these days) to have originated from across the 'pond'?

            Safe bet!
            As far as I can see it's a recent but not new word (1975) in military/aviation to mean, as I understand it, making sure planes don't get in each others way.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
              • 30163

              Originally posted by french frank View Post
              As far as I can see it's a recent but not new word (1975) in military/aviation to mean, as I understand it, making sure planes don't get in each others way.
              That suggests that the meaning there is to avoid conflict - the newer meaning seems to be to remove it? (Which is the more usual use of the "de-" prefix, isn't it?)
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • kea
                Full Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 749

                Possibly a little too dark, but phrases that use "sex" where what is meant is a four letter word starting with R.

                e.g. "sex trafficking", "sex slave", "sex offender", "sex worker" etc.

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                • P. G. Tipps
                  Full Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2978

                  Originally posted by kea View Post
                  Possibly a little too dark, but phrases that use "sex" where what is meant is a four letter word starting with R.

                  e.g. "sex trafficking", "sex slave", "sex offender", "sex worker" etc.
                  If your four-letter word is what I think it is I would fully agree with you on the first three but not necessarily the last.

                  A few weeks ago a 'high class sex worker' was interviewed by Andrew Neil and was described as a 'spokesperson' for The English Collective of Prostitutes which demands that 'soliciting' by 'girls' (and some men/youths) in her 'profession' is decriminalised. She claimed that many women who are involved in the business do so willingly and have good relationships with their 'clients', earning a comfortable living they could not hope to attain elsewhere.

                  Forced prostitution/slavery is an utter abomination on a par with murder, imv. There should be no mercy for those found guilty of being involved in this horrific trade, Many young girls are also forced into this unimaginable life through a wretched dependence on drugs. .

                  However in the case of others one does wonder who exactly is being exploited in this business, the greedy, materialistic 'sex-worker' or the stupid, lustful 'client'? To use the 'r' word here would obviously be quite ridiculous as neither party, whatever our own moral views on the matter, could seriously be described as a "victim".

                  Both parties are perfectly free to make alternative life-style choices if they so wish.

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                  • kea
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 749

                    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                    A few weeks ago a 'high class sex worker' was interviewed by Andrew Neil and was described as a 'spokesperson' for The English Collective of Prostitutes which demands that 'soliciting' by 'girls' (and some men/youths) in her 'profession' is decriminalised. She claimed that many women who are involved in the business do so willingly and have good relationships with their 'clients', earning a comfortable living they could not hope to attain elsewhere.
                    I figured there would be some debate about that one.

                    I am happy to use the term "sex worker" for people like that high class escort or whatever, who have sufficient financial means that prostituting themselves is a "choice". (Though many of them, after exiting the industry, have revealed that it wasn't so much of a choice afterwards.)

                    However the evidence overwhelmingly shows that this is not the case for 89-95% of prostituted women—they are forced into "sex work" by economic hardship, addiction, domestic violence etc. Essentially, a "choice" between "sex" and homelessness/lack of healthcare/starvation/etc is not really a choice—any more than someone can "choose" to have sex at gunpoint. And what we call sex when a person involved is coerced into doing it is that four letter word. When the term "sex worker" (or "survival sex worker") is used to refer to this group of people—which it usually is—it is indeed one of those Phrases/Words That Set My Teeth On Edge.

                    Prostitution is, of course, a highly lucrative industry for the pimps, who control most of the "sex worker" lobbies and organisations, so they're very keen on paying people to defend it. They are also absolutely not to be trusted—conflict of interest obviously. In general the only people who tell the truth about the "sex industry" (there's another one) are exited prostitutes.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26523

                      "Max Richter's Eight-hour Epic 'Sleep' "
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30245

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        Both parties are perfectly free to make alternative life-style choices if they so wish.
                        Wot kea said.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          Therefore the 'r' word isn't appropriate.

                          (I don't think it's really appropriate for the 'offender' category either, since not all such offences involve rape.)

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                          • DracoM
                            Host
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12960

                            Terms that grate

                            pop-up studio
                            residency
                            project
                            season
                            for the next thirty days

                            All terms that regularly litter / end-stop every announcement / trail.

                            Any others that grate?

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12788

                              .


                              the verb curate

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                              • jean
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7100

                                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                                The verb curate
                                Seems to me a reasonable and obvious back-formation from curator. What would you use instead? Cure clearly won't do.

                                As for pop-up, it's a new word for something that's only recently come into existence. It seems to do the job perfectly.

                                (Is grate different from set your teeth on edge?)

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