Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 29882

    Originally posted by mangerton View Post
    Similarly ult(imo mense) next month, and prox(imo mense) next month...
    Erm ...
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • scottycelt

      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      It's not as bad as when Michael Foot and Denis Healey told us to "think positive".
      Hmmm ... the long-established stock answer and last refuge of management scoundrels when they receive some unwelcome negative feedback from the shopfloor.

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      • scottycelt

        'Lawmakers' ...

        The presenters on Bloomberg News (London) no longer refer to British 'MPs'.

        Why not? In this country anybody I speak to about politics still seems to call them that.

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 29882

          Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
          Except it is now being used as a synonym for history. For example, the violinist James Ehnes spoke in an interview about the interesting backstory (sic) to Bartok's 1st violin concerto; AFAIAM the concerto is not "a history invented for a character in a film or work of fiction that hadn't been thought of when the film (or whatever) was first devised."
          It was a draft addition of 2004 to the OED which suggests a new meaning:

          back story n. a history or background story; spec. one created for a fictional character or situation, esp. in a film or television series.

          I would suggest it means in general the background to something, invented or not. JLW has just used it on the thread about Mahler's 10th, Msg#7. last para. So it may not be invented, but equally it's not so much the history of a specific thing/event because it may be contemporaneous with it. But either 'history' or 'background' would seem to serve, although in this sense it is perceived to have a clear narrative (favouring the fictional use).

          I'd never come across it before (and hadn't read JLW's post!).
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • scottycelt

            Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
            'Lawmakers' ...

            The presenters on Bloomberg News (London) no longer refer to British 'MPs'.

            Why not? In this country anybody I speak to about politics still seems to call them that.
            Right on cue a BBC NEWS presenter has just read out some news regarding 'Cyprus Lawmakers' commenting ... 'I assume that refers to Cyprus MPs' ...

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37318

              Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
              'Lawmakers' ...

              The presenters on Bloomberg News (London) no longer refer to British 'MPs'.

              Why not? In this country anybody I speak to about politics still seems to call them that.
              To distinguish MPs from lawbreakers, presumably...

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              • Wallace

                My English teacher discouraged the use of "very". It could be cold outside but not very cold. He regarded it as a filler word which added nothing to the thought being communicated. My written and spoken English would have been worse without his influence.

                He would have been completely devastated and found it absolutely unbelievable to hear the words which are used today to express apparently extreme sentiments about everyday happenings. He would have been truly astounded and had a real and unique sense of foreboding (going forward).

                He would have urged linguistic restraint. I remember that at our first lesson he told the class that he would never award more than 8/10 for a piece of work. 9 was reserved for Shakespeare and 10 was in the gift of God (although he was an atheist). I once managed a 7

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                • Thropplenoggin
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                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1587

                  Originally posted by Wallace View Post
                  My English teacher discouraged the use of "very". It could be cold outside but not very cold. He regarded it as a filler word which added nothing to the thought being communicated. My written and spoken English would have been worse without his influence.

                  He would have been completely devastated and found it absolutely unbelievable to hear the words which are used today to express apparently extreme sentiments about everyday happenings. He would have been truly astounded and had a real and unique sense of foreboding (going forward).

                  He would have urged linguistic restraint. I remember that at our first lesson he told the class that he would never award more than 8/10 for a piece of work. 9 was reserved for Shakespeare and 10 was in the gift of God (although he was an atheist). I once managed a 7
                  To use the lamentable parlance of these times: that's just, like, way cool, innit.

                  As a pedagogue, I am a strict marker, too.
                  It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                  • Wallace

                    I listened recently to a piece of music broadcast live on Radio 3 composed by someone recognised as a significant composer of the 20th century. It was played by a group of performers whom, I felt, did it justice. I enjoyed the performance. It was however preceded by a short live discussion between the presenter and one of the performers which I did not enjoy as much and which "set my teeth on edge". In the space of just couple of minutes the performer told us that:
                    1 she felt it was such an amazing work;
                    2 it was absolutely fantastic;
                    3 it had such a massive impact;
                    4 she couldn't help but be completely overwhelmed by it.

                    The composer concerned composed better works. I wonder if this performer has any words in her vocabulary to describe them?

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20563

                      It sounds just like a televised Prom interval chat.

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                      • Wallace

                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        It sounds just like a televised Prom interval chat.
                        I wonder when the everyday use of such language began. It wasn't around when I was a youth. We had other word and phrases for annoying our elders - and I like to think that we used them in a considered way with the intention of creating our own identities and if it aggravated the older folk, so much the better. But these are just filler words used mindlessly - not even with an intention to annoy. But it damn well does. And everyone is at it. Even those who should know better - and women more than men it seems.

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                        • vinteuil
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12665

                          Originally posted by Wallace View Post
                          if it aggravated the older folk, so much the better. :
                          ... "aggravated" would certainly have irritated the older folk when I were a lad

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25175

                            The Boat race.

                            What they mean is A boat race.
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              The Boat race.

                              What they mean is A boat race.

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                              • ahinton
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 16122

                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                The Boat race.

                                What they mean is A boat race.
                                I think that this is somewhat unfair; it may not be "the" boat race - indeed, it cannot be such - but it has been going for 159 years and it between teams from two of the longest standing universities in the world, so it's surely not just any old boat race such as reasonably to warrant the mere descriptor "a boat race", is it?

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