Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    Originally posted by mangerton View Post
    Your point about "requested and paid" is the crux, I think. There is also the idea of "choice", in the sense that I choose to buy from you, and you choose to sell to me. What then about claimants of benefits provided by central government, or indeed taxpayers? These are all now regarded as "customers".
    I'm not so sure that "choice" is a necessary element in the customer/provider relationship. If you couldn't get what you wanted unless you bought it from me, you'd have no choice other than to be my customer or not to be one at all by deciding not to proceed with the purchase.

    Benefit claimants are, I agree, perhaps a grey area at least to the extent that many would be unable to get their benefits or sums equivalent thereto from any source other than the state although, even then, the crucial word is "many"; those in receipt of certain (though not all, of course) medical based benefit payments could choose (if they could afford to) to have them paid via private insurance and some of those who receive pensions might choose to have them rather than state retirement benefit if they don't have sufficient qualifying payments for the latter. Furthermore, state benefit claimants are at least claimants by reason of having "requested" them by applying successfully for them. Also, the recent Starbucks / Amazon et al débâcle demonstrates that, to some extent, taxation is a competitive international market in which, for some companies and individuals, tax can be a matter of choice for some companies and individuals at least in terms of the country in which they elect to pay it - and I'm not even referring specifically only to deliberate tax avoidance measures for their own sake but to individuals who divide their time between homes in more than two countries and are obliged by law to make a choice as to the country in which the elect to pay tax.

    Originally posted by mangerton View Post
    Ok, but I feel it is now being widely (mis)used, and has become one of the latest management buzzwords, going forward. It's time to draw a line in the sand and move on.
    As in "lead us not into clichesque temptation, but deliver us from management buzzwords", peut-être? (scotty will like that one, I'm sure!)...

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    • ahinton
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 16123

      Originally posted by JFLL View Post
      And ‘delivering outcomes’, which seems to mean ‘doing something’ in English.
      I agree that this is rather daft - or at the very least implicitly tautological - for an outcome is by definition an end result of something whereas a delivery itself involves an outcome.

      Originally posted by JFLL View Post
      I wonder whether it was originally a technical term of midwifery?
      Or possibly even something that Stonewall might be well placed to clarify...

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      • Sydney Grew
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 754

        Originally posted by JFLL View Post
        And ‘delivering outcomes’, which seems to mean ‘doing something’ in English. I wonder whether it was originally a technical term of midwifery?
        Close; its first recorded use is in the "sex industry."

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        • Deckerd

          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          In short, then the term "customer" might sometimes be used incorrectly but is not necessarily incompatible with "passenger", "patient" or whatever else.
          We had a email come round the University a few years ago with a list of words which "shouldn't be used", including all of the above as well as "client" and indeed "stakeholder". After exhausting all possibilities, we worked out that the only word not on the list was "punter", so I emailed everyone to let them know.

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          • mercia
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 8920

            it's useful to be a stakeholder if you're a vampire hunter

            ho-ho I nearly laughed

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 38035

              Originally posted by mercia View Post
              it's useful to be a stakeholder if you're a vampire hunter

              ho-ho I nearly laughed
              We all got the point...

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26606

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                We all got the point...
                Have a heart!

                Actually, I saw yesterday a photo of one of the 'vampire hunting kits' that were prepared for superstitious travellers to eastern Europe in the late 19th century, following the publication of Mr Stoker's oeuvre...



                I need to acquire one at auction for use at the next department meeting when someone utters the "S" word....

                "Hold THIS!!!!!".... *hammer blow*
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25265

                  Stakeholder pensions.
                  Whatever happened to them ?
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • EdgeleyRob
                    Guest
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12180

                    Baroqueing and rolling.

                    It had to happen I suppose.

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                    • Padraig
                      Full Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 4266

                      [QUOTE=Caliban;267187][COLOR="#0000FF"]Have a heart! QUOTE]

                      Those Christians again! They have it in for vampires too!
                      That sucks,

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                      • LeMartinPecheur
                        Full Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4717

                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        Stakeholder pensions.
                        Whatever happened to them ?
                        If you are seeking discreet but cheap accomodation for vampire-hunters, Thomas Cook Transsylvania will be pleased to oblige I'm sure
                        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                        • teamsaint
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 25265

                          Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                          If you are seeking discreet but cheap accomodation for vampire-hunters, Thomas Cook Transsylvania will be pleased to oblige I'm sure


                          nothing wrong with a budget stopover.....
                          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26606

                            "It's extremely difficult to interpret"

                            = a new elaborate way of saying "I haven't the foggiest" in live TV broadcasts.

                            "Interpret" as a posh version of "have a clue"

                            Actually it's funny rather than tooth-edge endangering.
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Pabmusic
                              Full Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              "It's extremely difficult to interpret"

                              = a new elaborate way of saying "I haven't the foggiest" in live TV broadcasts.

                              "Interpret" as a posh version of "have a clue"

                              Actually it's funny rather than tooth-edge endangering.
                              I think it's slightly worse. By acknowledging that "interpretation" is needed but then implying that you (the figurative you, that is) cannot do that, it points to a personal failing in a way that - surprisingly - "I haven't a clue" doesn't.

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                              • Flosshilde
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7988

                                What's happened to 'blown away'? A few years ago it seemed to be the favoured expression for someone wanting to say that they were a bit surprised, or that they found something not bad. It seems to have disappeared (for which I'm very thankful)

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