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Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View Postdropped
...as in [the film] making waves ever since the trailer dropped at the end of last year: Guardian today
Another example of a negatively-charged verb being used is when weather forecasters say “… as the evening wears on…”
Well yours might be wearing on wearisomely, chief, but mine’s passing quite agreeably and more quickly than I would like, thanks very much!
Originally posted by johncorrigan View PostThey also say, 'You're locked in to 6 Music...I find myself saying, 'no I'm not!', and to prove it I switch stations or switch off. That'll learn 'em!"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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[QUOTE=Nick Armstrong;905857][COLOR="#0000FF"]This reminds me of the horrible turn of phrase which seems to have arisen in recent years: “she fell pregnant”…
The phrase isn't new, and perhaps is similar to "fall ill" in origin - French and German use of "fall" to mean "become" might be the origin - eg tomber enceinte.
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[QUOTE=oddoneout;905873]Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post[COLOR="#0000FF"]This reminds me of the horrible turn of phrase which seems to have arisen in recent years: “she fell pregnant”…
The phrase isn't new, and perhaps is similar to "fall ill" in origin - French and German use of "fall" to mean "become" might be the origin - eg tomber enceinte.
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Good points. It just seems particularly infelicitous in the context of pregnancy. What’s wrong with something neutral like ‘became’…?"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View PostGood points. It just seems particularly infelicitous in the context of pregnancy. What’s wrong with something neutral like ‘became’…?
I doubt there is much chance of "fall pregnant" falling out of use since it is fairly common in the 50% of the population to whom it directly applies... Its higher profile could be the result of spread through social media?
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostThe phrase isn't new, and perhaps is similar to "fall ill" in origin...
(I've been aware of 'fall pregnant' for many years, even decades, and for a long time thought it to be Hampshire dialect .)
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Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View PostThis reminds me of the horrible turn of phrase which seems to have arisen in recent years: “she fell pregnant”…It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post
Another example of a negatively-charged verb being used is when weather forecasters say “… as the evening wears on…”
Well yours might be wearing on wearisomely, chief, but mine’s passing quite agreeably and more quickly than I would like, thanks very much!
Exactly!
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Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View PostI can't imagine I've not mentioned weatherforecasterese on this thread. Their frequent use of formulations such as "marching its way across the country" grates. I don't say I'm going to walk/march/amble/ride/drive/fly my way into town. Why the heck do they do it? Maybe they speak like that at home...
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Originally posted by kernelbogey View PostLike journalists - see my #6359 for example - I imagine they have an urge to coin alternative ways of expressing the mundane or oft-repeated notion. There are few more boring topics than the weather, after all.
There are journalists who take pride in their craft and others too lazy - or too 'down wiv da yoof' - to avoid horrors like dropped in the usage you quote. My weatherforecasterese example seems to have become something of a verbal tic among forecasters. To be fair, since they're probably more meteorologists than journalists, there may be no actual editorial supervision to prevent repetitions of this annoyance.Last edited by EnemyoftheStoat; 20-01-23, 12:51.
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Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View PostHaving written hundreds of resumes of corporate results, I can speak from experience that you are right, but when the job in hand is not to entertain the reader/viewer or oneself but to inform, then you just have to knuckle down. (Now that topic is more boring than the weather!)
There are journalists who take pride in their craft and others too lazy - or too 'down wiv da yoof' - to avoid horrors like dropped in the usage you quote. My weatherforecasterese example seems to have become something of a verbal tic among forecasters. To be fair, since they're probably more meteorologists than journalists, there may be no actual editorial supervision to prevent repetitions of this annoyance.
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