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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12788

    Originally posted by french frank View Post
    It's merely lifelong experience that tells me that if something is 'popular' I probably shan't like it. Not disdain for the 'popular', just my weird tastes I don't take offence that no one ever shares my enthusiasms
    ... o, I've always happily identified with the Pharisee in Luke -

    "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are ... "

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30243

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are ... "
      As long as the corollary is not 'that I am better than others', M. vinteuil I believe that is what people would, understandably, find annoying. Merely being uninterested in football or alternative pop music is bad enough …

      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Triforium
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 147

        Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded.

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        • teamsaint
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 25193

          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          Presumably that's exactly why the BBC avoids using it. It's merely lifelong experience that tells me that if something is 'popular' I probably shan't like it. Not disdain for the 'popular', just my weird tastes I don't take offence that no one ever shares my enthusiasms
          No one?

          Anyway, You might not enjoy it all that much , but you might usefully listen to Jumping Someone Else’s Train , by The Cure.It won’t take you long. Pop music, it is....though not all that popular at the time.....
          ( I prefer the unpopular sort , jn general)
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25193

            Initialising.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • french frank
              Administrator/Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 30243

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              No one?
              No one here, anyway

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              Anyway, You might not enjoy it all that much , but you might usefully listen to Jumping Someone Else’s Train , by The Cure.It won’t take you long. Pop music, it is....though not all that popular at the time.....
              ( I prefer the unpopular sort , jn general)
              <sigh> Yes, I will listen. I will listen now. I once listened to Kate Bush (I think it was Kate Bush) and earlier today I crept away quietly and listened to Eliane Radigue's Trilogie de la Mort or part of it (I used the slider after about ten minutes to sample various bits).

              'Popular' music is often a misnomer in that it often isn't/wasn't very 'popular' in having tens of millions of enthusiasts. Like 'classical music' being used for (very good) film music.

              Later: I listened to two videos. This one had the words …
              Last edited by french frank; 12-02-21, 19:22.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • LezLee
                Full Member
                • Apr 2019
                • 634

                I'm VERY, VERY fed up with people saying 'REsearch instead of reSEARCH. What can I do?

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                • LeMartinPecheur
                  Full Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4717

                  Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                  I'm VERY, VERY fed up with people saying 'REsearch instead of reSEARCH. What can I do?
                  Emigrate to US and buy their language ap??
                  I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                    I'm VERY, VERY fed up with people saying 'REsearch instead of reSEARCH. What can I do?
                    While Cambridge UP gives accent on the second syllable in both US and British English, Macmillan offers both stress on the first syllable and on the second as valid alternatives. Then there's Oxford: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari...ish/research_1

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                    • oddoneout
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 9144

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      While Cambridge UP gives accent on the second syllable in both US and British English, Macmillan offers both stress on the first syllable and on the second as valid alternatives. Then there's Oxford: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionari...ish/research_1
                      I use both versions - indiscriminate , me. It does suggest that there wasn't a parental edict about it as such things have tended to stick, and both parents and a grandparent were involved in research so the word would have been in use.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30243

                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        While Cambridge UP gives accent on the second syllable in both US and British English, Macmillan offers both stress on the first syllable and on the second as valid alternatives.
                        Validity indicating 1) what people regularly say and recording 2) the differences as being 'valid', 'rare', 'colloquial'. It isn't about what is logical, rational or correct, but what is said/heard. OED records both pronunciations without comment.

                        My contribution (which it appears I did not post earlier, as I thought I had) as in letter from BT this morning:

                        "Your prices are changing soon" where 'changing' means 'increasing' … A not infrequent usage.
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          Validity indicating 1) what people regularly say and recording 2) the differences as being 'valid', 'rare', 'colloquial'. It isn't about what is logical, rational or correct, but what is said/heard. OED records both pronunciations without comment.

                          My contribution (which it appears I did not post earlier, as I thought I had) as in letter from BT this morning:

                          "Your prices are changing soon" where 'changing' means 'increasing' … A not infrequent usage.
                          Hh, heh. That reminds me of when a company I worked for was taken over by another. Consequent upon this was an 'adjustment' in prices. For once, the new prices were between the previous ones used by each of the two companies. I chose to produce a poster announcing "harmonisation" of the prices. . The MD was full of congratulations re the finesse.

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30243

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            The MD was full of congratulations re the finesse.
                            Indeed, it brings a smile to the face - something to look forward to with pleasure
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12788

                              Originally posted by french frank View Post

                              "Your prices are changing soon" where 'changing' means 'increasing' … A not infrequent usage.
                              ... in the same way that those seeking to increase the possibilities of 'social mobility' always seem to imply that the mobility will predominantly be upwards...

                              .

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25193

                                Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                                I'm VERY, VERY fed up with people saying 'REsearch instead of reSEARCH. What can I do?
                                Join the Canute school of pronunciation ?

                                I'll carry on pronouncing it as you do, but , you know, there is much else to concern ourselves with.

                                Incidentally, I didn't know till recently that Bognor and Southampton both claim the famous tide incident.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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