Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • vinteuil
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12664

    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    apparently WHSmith are "Applying the learnings " of previous lockdowns.

    I suppose people have learning, but seeks clumsy to me though, at best.
    RESTOCKED "We are proud to present the first complete release of a milestone of XX century music and a first piece to be called minimalist (by Michael Nyman). In a nearly 5-hour long recording of the …




    ( ... Bryn's yer man here, tho' )

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    • oddoneout
      Full Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 8966

      Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
      apparently WHSmith are "Applying the learnings " of previous lockdowns.

      I suppose people have learning, but seeks clumsy to me though, at best.
      What's wrong with "lessons learned" ? The question of whether anything has been learned to be available to apply is another matter altogether of course.

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      • Pulcinella
        Host
        • Feb 2014
        • 10672

        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        apparently WHSmith are "Applying the learnings " of previous lockdowns.

        I suppose people have learning, but seeks clumsy to me though, at best.
        Even the 'of' is clumsy: what did the lockdowns learn?

        Surely 'from'?
        As vinteuil says: 'Applying lessons learned from previous lockdown' would be much better, but I'd probably go for 'Applying (or Putting into practice) what we have learned from....' (which of course could be nothing at all!).

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37318

          A great letter in next week's Radio Times (P.151):

          "I have literally had enough of literally every other person on TV saying literally: literally every soap, literally every interview and literally every quiz show includes this literally annoying word along with other wrongly used or confused expressions. My head literally span when I watched Tipping Point and I hanged my head in despair during QI. So I literally snuck over to the remote control and decided to turn off all media until these grammatical abominations are gone
          Ashley Bliss Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire.

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          • Padraig
            Full Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 4198

            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
            and I hanged my head in despair during QI.
            Literally?

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37318

              Originally posted by Padraig View Post
              Literally?


              Give a man enough rope..........

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 29882

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post


                Give a man enough rope..........
                I paused, momentarily, after 'span', but when it went on to 'hanged' and 'snuck' I realised that literally wasn't the only hung-up.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26440

                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  literally

                  Agree with the complaint... I was surprised the other day to hear the otherwise articulate Anna Tilbrook on Inside Music say that in the Gloria of the B Minor Mass, the upward scales of the trumpets “literally lift you”

                  A novel trick
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12664

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                    ... 'literally' as an intensifier (rather than the antonym to 'figuratively') has been regularly used by writers at least as far back as Pope. It's only since the 20th century that some people have found it objectionable.

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                    • gurnemanz
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7354

                      In his inauguration speech Mr Biden referred to democracy depending "on we the people". Fair enough, albeit a statement of the obvious, but neither he nor his speech writers seem to care about prepositions being followed by an inflected pronoun.

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                      • vinteuil
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12664

                        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                        In his inauguration speech Mr Biden referred to democracy depending "on we the people". Fair enough, albeit a statement of the obvious, but neither he nor his speech writers seem to care about prepositions being followed by an inflected pronoun.
                        ... but isn't "we the people" (referring to the Preamble to the Constitution) now a stock phrase, 'we-the-people', and as such uninflectable?

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                        • gurnemanz
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7354

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... but isn't "we the people" (referring to the Preamble to the Constitution) now a stock phrase, 'we-the-people', and as such uninflectable?

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                          That's a valid point but I'll still venture to call it ungrammatical.

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26440

                            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                            .

                            ... 'literally' as an intensifier (rather than the antonym to 'figuratively') has been regularly used by writers at least as far back as Pope. It's only since the 20th century that some people have found it objectionable.

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                            Examples please!
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • vinteuil
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12664

                              Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post


                              Examples please!


                              He literally glowed (F. Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby) Last week I heard a news reporter on Irish television describe people as “literally gutted” by the news of job losses. She meant, of cour…



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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26440

                                I’m literally weeping with gratitude

                                Let’s settle for “annoying, but it is nothing new”, as that article says...!
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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