Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • LMcD
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    • Sep 2017
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    'Global pandemic'

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    • LMcD
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      • Sep 2017
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      From 'Today' on Radio 4 this morning:
      'The banks were asked to operationalize this scheme last Monday'

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      • Pulcinella
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        • Feb 2014
        • 10672

        Originally posted by LMcD View Post
        From 'Today' on Radio 4 this morning:
        'The banks were asked to operationalize this scheme last Monday'
        Not 'Today's' fault: I saw this (in The Times, I think), so perhaps it was how the instruction was given.
        Doesn't stop it being grim though: why not simply put this scheme into operation?

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
          • 24688

          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
          Not 'Today's' fault: I saw this (in The Times, I think), so perhaps it was how the instruction was given.
          Doesn't stop it being grim though: why not simply put this scheme into operation?
          Or the perfectly adequate "implement".

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
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            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
            Or the perfectly adequate "implement".

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            • LMcD
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              • Sep 2017
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              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              Or the perfectly adequate "implement".
              Quite - or 'put into effect', 'activate' or, for a bit of added excitement 'kick-start'. Presumably the scheme will be 'deoperationalized' in due course.

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              • LezLee
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                • Apr 2019
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                Someone on the very American ‘Knitting Paradise’* forum said she had just been ‘surgerized’. When I said (tongue-in-cheek) I thought it was an excellent word and I might use it, I discovered it is the actual common American word for having surgery! Cf burglarize.
                *KP is a source of great wonderment and amusement.

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                • oddoneout
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                  • Nov 2015
                  • 8966

                  Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                  Not 'Today's' fault: I saw this (in The Times, I think), so perhaps it was how the instruction was given.
                  Doesn't stop it being grim though: why not simply put this scheme into operation?
                  Except that it doesn't mean 'put into operation'? Googling the word proved interesting.

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 10672

                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                    Except that it doesn't mean 'put into operation'? Googling the word proved interesting.
                    Well, meaning 1 does, but 2 is too philosophical for me:


                    verb
                    verb: operationalize; 3rd person present: operationalizes; past tense: operationalized; past participle: operationalized; gerund or present participle: operationalizing; verb: operationalise; 3rd person present: operationalises; past tense: operationalised; past participle: operationalised; gerund or present participle: operationalising
                    1.
                    put into operation or use.
                    "such measures would be difficult to operationalize"
                    2.
                    PHILOSOPHY
                    express or define (something) in terms of the operations used to determine or prove it.
                    "previous studies have operationalized panic in terms of average time of group escape"

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                    • oddoneout
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                      • Nov 2015
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                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      Well, meaning 1 does, but 2 is too philosophical for me:


                      verb
                      verb: operationalize; 3rd person present: operationalizes; past tense: operationalized; past participle: operationalized; gerund or present participle: operationalizing; verb: operationalise; 3rd person present: operationalises; past tense: operationalised; past participle: operationalised; gerund or present participle: operationalising
                      1.
                      put into operation or use.
                      "such measures would be difficult to operationalize"
                      2.
                      PHILOSOPHY
                      express or define (something) in terms of the operations used to determine or prove it.
                      "previous studies have operationalized panic in terms of average time of group escape"
                      The Wikipedia entry gives more of the science/research based context to which your No2 refers.
                      I do wonder if the original use of the word in relation to the banks article was made by someone who knew what it meant, and if so which meaning was intended. It could have been 'put in operation' or it could in effect have been a deflection/delaying exercise - a process preceding something being put into operation - or not, as the case might be.

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
                        • 10672

                        Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                        The Wikipedia entry gives more of the science/research based context to which your No2 refers.
                        I do wonder if the original use of the word in relation to the banks article was made by someone who knew what it meant, and if so which meaning was intended. It could have been 'put in operation' or it could in effect have been a deflection/delaying exercise - a process preceding something being put into operation - or not, as the case might be.


                        Oxford's not mine, btw!

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                        • LMcD
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                          • Sep 2017
                          • 8102

                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          Not 'Today's' fault: I saw this (in The Times, I think), so perhaps it was how the instruction was given.
                          Doesn't stop it being grim though: why not simply put this scheme into operation?
                          For the record, it was somebody from UK Finance who used the word during an interview.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by LMcD View Post
                            For the record, it was somebody from UK Finance who used the word during an interview.
                            Thanks for contextualizing it.

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                            • LMcD
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                              • Sep 2017
                              • 8102

                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              Thanks for contextualizing it.
                              I thought an explanification might be in order.

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                              • oddoneout
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                                • Nov 2015
                                • 8966

                                Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post


                                Oxford's not mine, btw!
                                Yes I saw that as well but found the Wiki rather more helpful!

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