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  • LMcD
    Full Member
    • Sep 2017
    • 8406

    Heard this morning during a BBC World Service news bulletin:
    Tensions (between Iran and the USA) have dialled down for the present'. I really don't like this kind of supposedly trendy, pseudo-technological term. Whatever's wrong with 'eased'? Even the intransitive use of 'reduced' would be preferable if only because it's less pretentious and self-consciously 'with it'.
    (While I'm having a bit of a whinge, I'm not that keen on the use of 'transition' as a verb, either).

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    • alycidon
      Full Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 459

      Originally posted by LMcD View Post
      Heard this morning during a BBC World Service news bulletin:
      Tensions (between Iran and the USA) have dialled down for the present'. I really don't like this kind of supposedly trendy, pseudo-technological term. Whatever's wrong with 'eased'? Even the intransitive use of 'reduced' would be preferable if only because it's less pretentious and self-consciously 'with it'.
      (While I'm having a bit of a whinge, I'm not that keen on the use of 'transition' as a verb, either).
      That’s just plain stupid. How do they manage it? Why can’t people just use the Queen’s English?
      Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        "Dialled down" doesn't make sense (mind you, neither does "ring him up") - are we sure (he asked politely - he didn't hear the broadcast) that the phrase used wasn't "died down"?
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • LMcD
          Full Member
          • Sep 2017
          • 8406

          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          "Dialled down" doesn't make sense (mind you, neither does "ring him up") - are we sure (he asked politely - he didn't hear the broadcast) that the phrase used wasn't "died down"?
          I may have misheard, although there's a lot of 'dialling down' going on these days. While trying, and failing, to check using BBC Sounds, I DEFINITELY heard the words 'the language choosed by the Iranian Foreign Minister'.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            It wouldn't surprise me to learn that "dial down" has become an expression - perhaps a corruption of "died down" (?to spare people's feelings?). I hadn't so far knowingly encountered it - or, if I had, I had mentally "corrected" it to what I'm used to.

            I have frequently heard people say "you choosed to do it" - but not on the BBC.

            Or over the age of 6.
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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12788

              .

              ... I've been encountering "dial down" and also "dial up" a fair bit over the last year or so. I'm sure the image comes from turning a dial down or up (... to 11), and nothing to do with dying. Not a phrase I wd use, but I don't find it particularly objectionable.

              Never encountered "choosed" (nor "chus'd", neither... ). Can LMcD recall the perpetrator?


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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                I'm sure the image comes from turning a dial down or up (... to 11), and nothing to do with dying.
                Ahh! That makes sense! I'd been thinking of telephone dials, rather than volume knobs. (And I suppose "knobbed up/down" never had a chance of catching on.

                In this context.)
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                • oddoneout
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 9144

                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  "Dialled down" doesn't make sense (mind you, neither does "ring him up") - are we sure (he asked politely - he didn't hear the broadcast) that the phrase used wasn't "died down"?
                  It is the phrase being used for this issue.
                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-ease-tensions.
                  Who's turning the dial though?

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12788

                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    I'd been thinking of telephone dials...
                    ... most of us down here now use phones with buttons or images of buttons rather than dials - have they not yet caught on in your parts?

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      ... most of us down here now use phones with buttons or images of buttons rather than dials - have they not yet caught on in your parts?
                      Things catching on my parts is not fit matter for Forum discussion, methinks (not even on a "setting teeth on edge" Thread).

                      But, yes, the idea of a telephone dial is something I've not encountered in over 30 years - but "dial" is a Proustian word for me: I don't associate it with volume knobs nearly as much as I do the long-gone telephone dials of my long-gone childhood. (And they haven't reappeared in this, my second childhood.)
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                      • Oakapple

                        Heard on Radio 4 today: "creatures that live in a marine environment". What's wrong with "in the sea"? Or even just "sea creatures"?

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                          ... most of us down here now use phones with buttons or images of buttons rather than dials - have they not yet caught on in your parts?

                          .
                          With vinyl disc and compact cassettes making a marginal comeback, I reckon dial up telephones will not be far behind.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by Oakapple View Post
                            Heard on Radio 4 today: "creatures that live in a marine environment". What's wrong with "in the sea"? Or even just "sea creatures"?
                            "Marine environment" includes the shoreline, not just he sea itself.

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              With vinyl disc and compact cassettes making a marginal comeback, I reckon dial up telephones will not be far behind.
                              This thought occured to me, too - and there are some mock "retro" dial telephones available. The problem might be with getting put through to whichever department of the megalithic institution you're trying to deal with requiring you to "Press 1" (or whatever). Presumably dialling would have the same effect?
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                              • StephenMcK
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2020
                                • 70

                                But there was never an up or down to dialling a number, was there? No more than you could reverse the hand on a sundial.

                                I've looked online through lots of dictionary definitions online but none of them give any pointers as to where this notion emerged from.

                                I do remember in the old studios at Bush House the levels were still operated by a dial device rather than a board fader. I suppose then one could have spoken about dialling the sound up or down.

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