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There's a parallel between homidge/homaazh and garidge/garaazh (we always used to say garidge when I was young). My parents also talked about baridge balloons (if you hear mention of them now, it's usually baraazh).Originally posted by cloughie View PostComment
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I think what the writer means is that homage, which has been in use in English (initially in its feudal sense) since the fourteenth century, should be regarded as a fully naturalised English word and not pronounced as though it were a recent borrowing from French.Originally posted by french frank View Post
The question then is whether the new sense, particularly when applied to a remake of a film, should be regarded as a new borrowing and given a French spelling along with its French pronunciation.
The OED says:
Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈhɒmɪdʒ/ , U.S. /ˈ(h)ɑmɪdʒ/ (also, chiefly in sense 3b) Brit. /ɒˈmɑːʒ/ , U.S. /oʊˈmɑʒ/
The definition for 3b is
b. spec. A work of art or entertainment which incorporates elements of style or content characteristic of another work, artist, or genre, as a means of paying affectionate tribute. Also: an instance of such tribute within a work of art or entertainment.
and the first citation of this use is
1901 P. Spitta in R. Grey Stud. in Music by Var. Authors 27 A chorale thus borrowed to form part of an original work can only be regarded as emblematical of the Evangelical congregation... Therefore I speak of it as a homage to Bach.
but there's no record of how P Spitta would have pronounced it (though a hint in that s/he writes a not an.)Comment
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I know it's bad form to quote oneself, but really.....Originally posted by mangerton View Post
From today's Daily Telegraph
Today, Mr Crosby – perhaps sensing his industry clients would prefer to not have the advice they pay for dissected in the papers – sought to draw a line under the affair. And he used the words Mr Cameron would not:
The Prime Minister has repeatedly and clearly said that I have never lobbied him on anything, including on the issue of tobacco or plain packaging of cigarettes.
What the PM said should be enough for any ordinary person but to avoid any doubt or speculation let me be clear. At no time have I had any conversation or discussion with or lobbied the Prime Minister, or indeed the Health Secretary or the health minister, on plain packaging or tobacco issues.Comment
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a sad article about the language of disability and social care
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Sad indeed. And sadder still is the fact that, if the appearance (such as the language) is 'correct', it's evidence of 'care' and there's not so much else that needs doing.Originally posted by mercia View Post
[OK, that's a bit over the top, but only a bit... I have taken part in initiatives where appearance was the goal.]Comment
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Etymologically, it might be thought that initiatives are starts without finishes. Sound about right to meOriginally posted by mercia View Post
what are they ?
...except of course that for every new thing started, there's probably at least one previous worthwhile thing stopped to make room for it...
I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!Comment
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