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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 29882

    Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
    I think that's a good description, although it's as much legal jargon. But it is jargon, certainly - or was, at least. It dates from the 18th Century, I believe.
    OED earliest example is 1707:

    Re Originally: in the matter of, referring to; in re (see in prep.2 23d). Subsequently: about, concerning.
    1707 T. Hearne Remarks & Coll. 17 May (O.H.S.) II. 14 Amused by Charlett's trick re Tacitus.

    The aforementioned 23d has five examples of 'in re' of which all but the following refer to legal cases:

    1896 E. Terry Let. 7 Dec. in Ellen Terry & Shaw (1931) 136 What do you mean by saying (in re The Philanderer) it is dull and bestial?


    I think it is commercial jargon in the sense that it turns up in letters thus:

    Dear Sir,

    Re yours of the 10th inst ...
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • scottycelt

      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
      "Some more organised rain", as in weather forecasts; is this only ever trotted out by Roman Catholic meteorologists or is it just my warped imagination? (maybe scotty would know!).
      Poor Scotty is really struggling to see any obvious connection between meteorology and the dreaded disease popularly known as Roman Catholicism, ahinton.

      A possible link to secular astrology seems to him rather more plausible, though he is at pains to point out that he has never really given this particular matter any significant degree of thought.

      As for your self-confessed 'warped imagination' he cannot possibly comment but certainly does admire your willingness to pose this very personal question to other members!

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      • Sir Velo
        Full Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 3217

        Backstory.

        Is this execrable neologism getting "favorized" because history is gender specific?

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        • Padraig
          Full Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 4198

          Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
          Backstory.

          Is this execrable neologism getting "favorized" because history is gender specific?
          From the March events for UK City of Culture (Derry/Londonderry/:aka The Maiden City)

          ''The Maidens' City: A Herstory of the Walled City.''

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          • jean
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7100

            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
            Backstory.

            Is this execrable neologism getting "favorized" because history is gender specific?
            No, it's because it means something different - specifically a history invented for a character in a film or work of fiction that hadn't been thought of when the film (or whatever) was first devised.

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            • Sir Velo
              Full Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 3217

              Except it is now being used as a synonym for history. For example, the violinist James Ehnes spoke in an interview about the interesting backstory (sic) to Bartok's 1st violin concerto; AFAIAM the concerto is not "a history invented for a character in a film or work of fiction that hadn't been thought of when the film (or whatever) was first devised."

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                Has this one been mentioned before? - 'myself' instead of 'me' or 'I'. & sometimes 'I myself'.

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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  I think it is commercial jargon in the sense that it turns up in letters thus:

                  Dear Sir,

                  Re yours of the 10th inst ...
                  What does 'inst' mean in this case?

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                  • Anna

                    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                    What does 'inst' mean in this case?
                    It means, your last communication of this current month. Much used by old-school solicitors

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                    • mangerton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3346

                      Originally posted by Anna View Post
                      It means, your last communication of this current month. Much used by old-school solicitors
                      Similarly ult(imo mense) next month, and prox(imo mense) next month.

                      They just use it to put the wind up clients, as I'm sure Caliban will agree.

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                      • mangerton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3346

                        Have we mentioned "going forward", yet? It's raising its ugly head more and more frequently everywhere and especially at work from people who should know better. Going forward, it seems to be a sort of verbal padding. Just shove it in when you can't think of anything to say, going forward.

                        (If we've done this before my apologies, but I've heard and read it so often this week....)

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                        • Thropplenoggin
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1587

                          I read today that Ed Balls wants to get the "economic growth growing". A new low, even by his subterranean standards.
                          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                          • JFLL
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 780

                            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                            Have we mentioned "going forward", yet?
                            Or its even worse variant 'to progress' as a transitive verb, as in 'to progress an issue'.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20563

                              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                              I read today that Ed Balls wants to get the "economic growth growing". A new low, even by his subterranean standards.
                              It's not as bad as when Michael Foot and Denis Healey told us to "think positive".

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37318

                                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                                It's not as bad as when Michael Foot and Denis Healey told us to "think positive".
                                There is something on the plus side to be said for it, though.

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