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  • johnb
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    • Mar 2007
    • 2903

    Whoops - heckle typo now corrected.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26523

      Originally posted by johnb View Post
      Whoops - heckle typo now corrected.
      One can get away with very little with the vigilant vinteuil around!
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • JFLL
        Full Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 780

        ‘Inappropriate behaviour’, which seems to be in the news lately. Sounds a bit Orwellian to me. (I’m not, btw, necessarily condoning the behaviour itself.)

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        • teamsaint
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          • Nov 2010
          • 25193

          Originally posted by Caliban View Post


          Perfection, vinrouge!!
          Ha Johnb been vindicated?
          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

          I am not a number, I am a free man.

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          • vinteuil
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12788

            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            vindicated?
            ... (took me a moment to geddit (I blame the 'flu)) ...

            .

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26523

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              Ha Johnb been vindicated?
              Ouch!
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • teamsaint
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 25193

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                ... (took me a moment to geddit (I blame the 'flu)) ...



                .

                get better soon, vinny. There are some shockers around this winter......hope you are showing signs of vinprovement before long.
                Coat.....
                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26523

                  Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                  get better soon, vinny. There are some shockers around this winter......hope you are showing signs of vinprovement before long.
                  Coat.....
                  Quite!

                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • teamsaint
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 25193

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Quite!



                    Incidentally, why are advertisers so convinced that half time in the footy is the very best time to renew or change car insurance?
                    my priorities tend to be beer, tea, or a sandwich.
                    Last edited by teamsaint; 25-02-13, 21:11.
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                    I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26523

                      Stakeholders

                      Not members, participants, partners...

                      Stakeholders

                      Stakeholders

                      Stakeholders


                      Stakeholders









                      ...



                      ...



                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37591

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Stakeholders

                        Not members, participants, partners...

                        Stakeholders

                        Stakeholders

                        Stakeholders


                        Stakeholders











                        ...



                        ...



                        Mistake holders would be more accurate, perhaps...

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                        • mangerton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3346

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          Stakeholders

                          Not members, participants, partners...

                          Stakeholders

                          Stakeholders

                          Stakeholders


                          Stakeholders









                          ...



                          ...



                          Oh, I know. My organisation is awash with them. If ever I write the word, I write "steakholders". If I hear the word, I ask whether plates or forks are meant.

                          Similarly, everyone is now a "customer". And everything has to be "delivered", whether it's the week's groceries, or the Olympic Games.

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16122

                            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                            Oh, I know. My organisation is awash with them. If ever I write the word, I write "steakholders". If I hear the word, I ask whether plates or forks are meant.
                            Yes, the usage of the word ought indeed to be a good deal more "rare" than it is, largely because when people are described as "stakeholders" in something they usually aren't, so it's entirely misleading.

                            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                            Similarly, everyone is now a "customer".
                            Well, no, not quite "everyone"; I understand that a customer is someone who has requested and paid for goods or services.

                            Take travel on public transport, for example. When, say, an air passenger is described as a customer, he/she is a customer of the airline or other organisation from which the air travel ticket is purchased but only if the intended passenger has purchased it him/herself; if someone else has purchased on his/her behalf, the purchaser is the customer even though that purchaser will not be flying. The passenger also only becomes a passenger when he/she is on the plane, so if the flight is cancelled, he/she is not a passenger until he/she boards an alternative plane and is then flown on it.

                            With healthcare, a patient is also a customer by virtue of a contract existing between patient and healthcare provider who is paid to treat the customer. What healthcare provider is NHS, the patient is not usually the customer as, more often than not, someone else pays the provider for the services that it provides and, if it is a private healthcare provider, the patient's insurer is the customer unless the patient is not covered by insurance, in which case the patient is the customer by reason of paying for it him/herself.

                            In both cases, however, irrespective of who purchased the airline ticket or pays the healthcare provider, the passenger is still the passenger provided that he/she actually makes the journey with the airline and the patient is still the patient if he/she undergoes treatment given by a healthcare provider.

                            In short, then the term "customer" might sometimes be used incorrectly but is not necessarily incompatible with "passenger", "patient" or whatever else.

                            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                            And everything has to be "delivered", whether it's the week's groceries, or the Olympic Games.
                            Again, I'm not quite sure about "everything" but, since "delivery" does not necessarily involve the physical movement of goods from one place to another, I'm not convinced that the term is incompatible with the notion of the provision of services.

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                            • mangerton
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3346

                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              Well, no, not quite "everyone"; I understand that a customer is someone who has requested and paid for goods or services.
                              In short, then the term "customer" might sometimes be used incorrectly but is not necessarily incompatible with "passenger", "patient" or whatever else.
                              Your point about "requested and paid" is the crux, I think. There is also the idea of "choice", in the sense that I choose to buy from you, and you choose to sell to me. What then about claimants of benefits provided by central government, or indeed taxpayers? These are all now regarded as "customers".


                              Again, I'm not quite sure about "everything" but, since "delivery" does not necessarily involve the physical movement of goods from one place to another, I'm not convinced that the term is incompatible with the notion of the provision of services.
                              Ok, but I feel it is now being widely (mis)used, and has become one of the latest management buzzwords, going forward. It's time to draw a line in the sand and move on.

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                              • JFLL
                                Full Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 780

                                Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                                And everything has to be "delivered", whether it's the week's groceries, or the Olympic Games.
                                And ‘delivering outcomes’, which seems to mean ‘doing something’ in English. I wonder whether it was originally a technical term of midwifery?

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