Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

[teamsaint]

another thing...any phrase at all on those awful banners outside Junior schools with highlights from their ofsted report.

[jean]

Three times in a short report on "PM" this evening: "I am stood........"

Perfectly acceptable dialect form. Northern, mostly.

One problem we have in this country is that we don't recognise the dialect forms we still have. Italians (for example) know better.

[scottycelt]

No specifics, but all the c**p jargon bosses use , when what they mean is " we are sacking some of you to save our own over paid positions.".
i could give a spectacular example of this tonight, but you never know......

You mean something like ... 'We (senior management) are utterly determined to ensure that we (the shopfloor) remain lean and fit in order to meet the challenges of tomorrow' .. ?

[teamsaint]

You mean something like ... 'We (senior management) are utterly determined to ensure that we (the shopfloor) remain lean and fit in order to meet the challenges of tomorrow' .. ?

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very much so, Scotty. I would love to share this latest lot with you, because it's a gem.....no doubt more to come today.....

[mangerton]

Perfectly acceptable dialect form. Northern, mostly.

One problem we have in this country is that we don't recognise the dialect forms we still have. Italians (for example) know better.

Yes, I know it's a dialect form. However, I don't think a report on a news programme on Radio 4 is a suitable place for dialect.

[MickyD]

With the NHS scandal breaking out, I noticed today that "scapegoating" has now entered into the language.

[ahinton]

With the NHS scandal breaking out, I noticed today that "scapegoating" has now entered into the language.

I think that it's been around for quite a while (but then so's the NHS scandal, one could argue), actually - and it's just another example of verbs being given birth by nouns...

[scottycelt]

Following the latest spectacular Coalition U-Turn I expect something very much along these lines at the next PMQT in the House of Commons ...

'What this DOES prove is that this is a Government which has listened very carefully to the concerns of those who would have been most directly affected by the proposed changes and we have therefore amended our plans accordingly. This approach is right for teachers, students and parents and right for the country. This is a Listening Government and always will be whilst I'm in charge!'

In short, another fine mess ...

[jean]

I think that it's been around for quite a while...

Since 1943, according to the OED.

...and it's just another example of verbs being given birth by nouns...

And whyever not?

[ahinton]

Since 1943, according to the OED.

And whyever not?

I didn't say that there's any reason why not or indeed that I think that there is or should be one.

[ahinton]

Following the latest spectacular Coalition U-Turn I expect something very much along these lines at the next PMQT in the House of Commons ...

'What this DOES prove is that this is a Government which has listened very carefully to the concerns of those who would have been most directly affected by the proposed changes and we have therefore amended our plans accordingly. This approach is right for teachers, students and parents and right for the country. This is a Listening Government and always will be whilst I'm in charge!'

In short, another fine mess ...

Sure, but if governments don't listen to what its electorate doesn't want, how on earth can that electorate not be expected not to know how not to vote next time around? Who was it that said that "change creates increasing complexity - resisting change encourages increasing complexity to create itself"? As was noted en passant in this morning's edition of R4's Today programme on the subject (and I paraphrase here), if the government listens it'll be accused of expensive indecisiveness (in the form of such U-turns) and if it doesn't it will be accused of stubbornness; whilst being accused doesn't of itself confirm guilt, in cases such as this it's nevertheless sufficient to guarantee the making of "another fine mess"...

[jean]

I didn't say that there's any reason why not or indeed that I think that there is or should be one.

That's all right (alright) then.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Perfectly acceptable dialect form. Northern, mostly..

What utter patronising tosh. Make up your own language, you thick, ignorant Northerners, and while you're (or "your") at it, eat cake.

[MickyD]

The practice of turning nouns into verbs doesn't seem to bother others so much as it does me!

Another pet hate - "to gift"..."the work of art was 'gifted' to"...

[scottycelt]

Sure, but if governments don't listen to what its electorate doesn't want, how on earth can that electorate not be expected not to know how not to vote next time around? Who was it that said that "change creates increasing complexity - resisting change encourages increasing complexity to create itself"? As was noted en passant in this morning's edition of R4's Today programme on the subject (and I paraphrase here), if the government listens it'll be accused of expensive indecisiveness (in the form of such U-turns) and if it doesn't it will be accused of stubbornness; whilst being accused doesn't of itself confirm guilt, in cases such as this it's nevertheless sufficient to guarantee the making of "another fine mess"...

Whatever you say, ahinton ... but Another Fine Mess it most assuredly is whether it's a Listening Government or Deaf Government!