Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • eighthobstruction
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    • Nov 2010
    • 6394

    ....am I allowed to say - this thread is a bit of a circus....
    bong ching

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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
      ... tho' some prefer toves. Slithy or otherwise

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      Then there are Tove's Moomins.

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      • ahinton
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        • Nov 2010
        • 16122

        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        Then there are Tove's Moomins.
        Not to mention "Du wunderlische Tove!"...

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37318

          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          ... tho' some prefer toves. Slithy or otherwise

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          I didn't think you could be Toven!

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          • Padraig
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            • Feb 2013
            • 4198

            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Thereafter troves lie buried until the late 20th c. when they are dug up a couple of times in American publications. The OED article was updated in 2022 and seemingly found nothing then from this veritable trove of new examples.
            Serendipity strikes again. I read this an hour ago in Donna Tartt's The Goldfinch, 2013 USA

            " . . .well, you heard him just now. Perfect trove of information about New York history - dates, names, genealogies."

            p 702 paperback ed

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            • french frank
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              • Feb 2007
              • 29881

              Originally posted by Padraig View Post
              Serendipity strikes again. I read this an hour ago in Donna Tartt's The Goldfinch, 2013 USA

              " . . .well, you heard him just now. Perfect trove of information about New York history - dates, names, genealogies."

              p 702 paperback ed
              American again - so, as we know, language usage is very contagious when British people, esp writers/journalists, read and hear so much (more) American culture. We assimilate it very quickly and unwittingly. And I assume much more slowly within the US itself.
              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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              • Pulcinella
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                • Feb 2014
                • 10672

                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                American again - so, as we know, language usage is very contagious when British people, esp writers/journalists, read and hear so much (more) American culture. We assimilate it very quickly and unwittingly. And I assume much more slowly within the US itself.
                My 11th edition Merriam-Webster dictionary says: short for treasure trove; it gives a date 1888 (but not where it was used).

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12664

                  .

                  ... 'presser' (for 'press conference'). On the BBC News website today -

                  "Ryan Reynolds gatecrashes post-match presser for player's shirt"

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                  • vinteuil
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12664

                    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                    ...."trove" is fine....walk on ....
                    ... another trove - in The Times today :

                    "Russia has all but given up any hope of taking over the Baltic States for the foreseeable future, according to a leaked trove of purported Kremlin documents, as US officials said a long-anticipated Ukrainian counter-offensive could begin as soon as next week"

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                    • Serial_Apologist
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37318

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                      ... 'presser' (for 'press conference'). On the BBC News website today -

                      "Ryan Reynolds gatecrashes post-match presser for player's shirt"

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                      That gave my trousers quite a crease!

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                      • kernelbogey
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5645

                        Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                        .

                        ... 'presser' (for 'press conference'). On the BBC News website today -

                        "Ryan Reynolds gatecrashes post-match presser for player's shirt"
                        'Four syllables bad, two syllables good'...?

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                        • french frank
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                          • Feb 2007
                          • 29881

                          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                          'Four syllables bad, two syllables good'...?
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • eighthobstruction
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6394

                            ....of interest to someone perhaps....https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001kgm7 ....perhaps as a beginning to new research [as in my case]
                            bong ching

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37318

                              Unlikable.

                              Strangely enough () my American spellcheck is "okay" with this word, which I am hearing more and more often on TV and radio these past few months.

                              Unlike refers to dissimilarity rather than to taste or value judgement. Surely if one is speaking of someone or something one has aversions to, the adjective should be "dislikable"?

                              Having asked this question I don't find either dislikable or unlikable in my Oxford. The American spellcheck does not accept dislikable, which tells me something!

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                              • vinteuil
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12664

                                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                                Unlikable.
                                ... English dictionaries (online) use unlikeable and dislikeable, unlikable and dislikable preferred in the US.





                                There might be a distinction between 'dislikeable' (ie someone with regard to whom you feel distinct aversion) and 'unlikeable', where the feeling is more neutral (but you don't 'like' them)

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