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  • gradus
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    • Nov 2010
    • 5603

    'Gaslighting'. It seems to crop up with annoying regularity.

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    • oddoneout
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      • Nov 2015
      • 9144

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      It's my limited experience then. I was judging by Bristol and Chur, in Switzerland, where buses from many routes draw into bays - like railway termini - and there are departure and arrival boards. You can change buses, but very few would simply stop for a minute or so and then drive out straight away: they'd need to wait for passengers to arrive from other routes to get on. And there are ticket and enquiry offices. I imagine buses stand there overnight once the service ends for the day. That's what I would call a 'bus station'.
      Got all that - info boards,bays, ticket office etc. The length of time at the stop is indeed longer as the movement of passengers on and off is greater for many of the arrivals, but generally only about 5 or at most 10 mins. The buses go back to the various company depots at night( there are very few night services) - there's one in my town and at the relevant times of day one can see the fleet returning or leaving, with or without passengers depending on the route. There is also a kind of subsidiary bus hub and taxi rank about 5 mins further into the city in an area which has been closed to general traffic to enable buses to park on both sides of the road. An ironic footnote to that is that the buses/taxis only was in major part an attempt to improve the poor air quality in that part of the city; unfortunately the recording boxes regularly show exceptionally poor air quality - not quite world beating but significantly over national and some european equivalents.
      The difference from your experience is I think due to the relative lack of national coach traffic here(Bristol is a very much bigger place and part of national travel routes); there are some Megabus and national Express services that use the bus station but they are not a major part of the traffic I think; certainly I don't often see them when I use the bus station.

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      • oddoneout
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        • Nov 2015
        • 9144

        Originally posted by gradus View Post
        'Gaslighting'. It seems to crop up with annoying regularity.
        Perhaps because more is known and spoken about openly when it comes to forms of abuse?

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        • James Wonnacott
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          • Nov 2010
          • 248

          Originally posted by gradus View Post
          'Gaslighting'. It seems to crop up with annoying regularity.
          I hear (read) it a lot on social media but have never understand what it means.
          I have a medical condition- I am fool intolerant.

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          • James Wonnacott
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            • Nov 2010
            • 248

            understood.
            I have a medical condition- I am fool intolerant.

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37591

              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
              Perhaps because more is known and spoken about openly when it comes to forms of abuse?
              Having heard the term used frequently recently on radio and TV I've just looked it up. It serves what it describes well - manipulating individuals so that in the end they doubt their own version of events among other things to gain control over them. I get the impression that the mass media over-use the term to describe public ridicule in general via social media.

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              • LeMartinPecheur
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                • Apr 2007
                • 4717

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                Having heard the term used frequently recently on radio and TV I've just looked it up. It serves what it describes well - manipulating individuals so that in the end they doubt their own version of events among other things to gain control over them. I get the impression that the mass media over-use the term to describe public ridicule in general via social media.
                The term is useful but not at all transparent. It comes from the title of a very old film, plot summary on link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1944_film)
                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                • Serial_Apologist
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                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37591

                  Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                  The term is useful but not at all transparent. It comes from the title of a very old film, plot summary on link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1944_film)
                  I hadn't realised that previously.

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                  • EnemyoftheStoat
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1132

                    Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                    "Goodbye" can sound quite dismissive and also final, and is used in that way on occasion. Other languages seem to tend towards the rather softer approach - au revoir, arrivederci, tot siens, auf wiedersehen, all of which allude to seeing someone again, so I think saying "see you" (rather than "see you later" which I agree sounds a bit false) is acceptable as an alternative. I find myself using it for casual encounters in town, where a few words are exchanged in passing and where there is often the likelihood I will see the person again before too long.
                    On the other hand, "See you"/"see you again" from radio presenters is just a nonsense.
                    Or from TV presenters.

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                    • EnemyoftheStoat
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1132

                      While we're on the topic, who came up with 'into' for where the train is arriving instead of 'at'? I can't think of any other case in English where we'd use 'arrive into'.

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                      • oddoneout
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                        • Nov 2015
                        • 9144

                        Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                        Or from TV presenters.
                        Well at least the seeing applies on one side, unlike radio...

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                        • kernelbogey
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 5735

                          Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                          While we're on the topic, who came up with 'into' for where the train is arriving instead of 'at'? I can't think of any other case in English where we'd use 'arrive into'.
                          Having given this some thought in the past, my opinion is that this is also to do with fully arriving in the station, rather than stopped at a signal outside. (Nice to think that pedantry is practised even by railway managers.)
                          Last edited by kernelbogey; 02-01-23, 11:17.

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                          • EnemyoftheStoat
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1132

                            Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                            Having given this some thought in the past, my opinion is that this is also to do with fully arriving in the station, rather than stopped at a signal outside. (Nice to think that pedantry is paractised even by railway managers.)
                            Ah yes, that would explain it. (I was going to say 'make sense' but...) Both this and the 'station stop' thing are probably relics of the days when passengers could open doors short of the platform.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37591

                              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
                              Well at least the seeing applies on one side, unlike radio...
                              Not Big Brother Is Watching You quite yet, then...

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37591

                                Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                                Having given this some thought in the past, my opinion is that this is also to do with fully arriving in the station, rather than stopped at a signal outside. (Nice to think that pedantry is practised even by railway managers.)
                                Always preferable to arriving in pieces!

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