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Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostIt's becoming popular, using unchartered instead of uncharted, presumably due to the modern day cut and paste approach to reporting and writing which removes the step of checking that the correct term is being used.
I wander thro’ each charter’d street,
Near where the charter’d Thames does flow.
And mark in every face I meet
Marks of weakness, marks of woe.
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Originally posted by oddoneout View PostIt's becoming popular, using unchartered instead of uncharted, presumably due to the modern day cut and paste approach to reporting and writing which removes the step of checking that the correct term is being used. I tend to laugh when I hear it because the subject matter is never such as would lend itself to the chartering process.
Like the classic disinterested/uninterested, where two words are so similar in sound and appearance, their differences tend to be elided in usage, despite their usefulness. Both examples also include one term which has relatively limited application and a narrower definition (at least initially...).So they are encountered far less.
But these annoying humans, they never follow the rules, do they? Perhaps it is time to charter an interplanetary express and establish The Colony of Precision somewhere off-world...Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 25-07-21, 13:00.
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Originally posted by gurnemanz View PostThis kind of thing is common and normal in casual everyday spoken English and for me it would only become an annoyance when used in a more formal context. If I thought about it I might get annoyed about "aksherly" until I realised that I actually say that myself when jabbering away in a spontaneous informal situation.
Nothing to worry about. Only governesses ectually say febrru-ary, vull-nerable, secc-retary. And they might then fall in to the trap of saying wed nez day and al monds..
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The Olympics brings with it more joy for the amateur philologist. The use of medal and (rarer) podium as verbs for example which first emerged I think in 2012 . As in “Team GB have medalled for the first t8me this Olympics with a silver in the Judo”. As it’s a fad and five years since that last one it might be that the rarer variant “podiumed” doesn’t make an appearance this time round.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... or just perhaps - too many are recalling the Blake pome -
I wander thro’ each charter’d street,
Near where the charter’d Thames does flow.
And mark in every face I meet
Marks of weakness, marks of woe.
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Originally posted by Heldenleben View PostThe Olympics brings with it more joy for the amateur philologist. The use of medal and (rarer) podium as verbs for example which first emerged I think in 2012 . As in “Team GB have medalled for the first t8me this Olympics with a silver in the Judo”. As it’s a fad and five years since that last one it might be that the rarer variant “podiumed” doesn’t make an appearance this time round.
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Originally posted by Heldenleben View PostInteresting that use of chartered in Blake’s magnificent poem. He obviously despised the notion that a natural thing like the Thames could be subject to human regulation , laws and control and then unforgettably sketches a few choice examples of how ‘ chartered’ London has ground humanity down.
"I wander through each dirty street
Near where the dirty Thames does flow"
when incorporated in to Songs of Experience [1794] he changes it to the much more resonant 'charter'd'
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"Colleagues" as in "we will be updating guidance to all colleagues" and "looking forward to seeing as many colleagues as possible again". The ludicrousness of the usage of this word is clear when it is being used to describe people at vastly different levels within the same organisation. E.g. "'I'm going to speak to my colleague the managing director to ask for a payrise', said the first year trainee."
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Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post"Colleagues" as in "we will be updating guidance to all colleagues" and "looking forward to seeing as many colleagues as possible again". The ludicrousness of the usage of this word is clear when it is being used to describe people at vastly different levels within the same organisation. E.g. "'I'm going to speak to my colleague the managing director to ask for a payrise', said the first year trainee."
I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!
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Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View PostThis I think started in the John Lewis group of companies where all employees share in the profits and have some voice in the running of their employer. Perfectly reasonable there, and I suppose it was bound to be copied by other less egalitarian companies as a way of conveying a quite probably specious air of caring about all their staff.
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Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View PostThis I think started in the John Lewis group of companies where all employees share in the profits and have some voice in the running of their employer. Perfectly reasonable there, and I suppose it was bound to be copied by other less egalitarian companies as a way of conveying a quite probably specious air of caring about all their staff.
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Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post"Colleagues" as in "we will be updating guidance to all colleagues" and "looking forward to seeing as many colleagues as possible again". The ludicrousness of the usage of this word is clear when it is being used to describe people at vastly different levels within the same organisation. E.g. "'I'm going to speak to my colleague the managing director to ask for a payrise', said the first year trainee."
I don't particularly object to it.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post"Colleagues" as in "we will be updating guidance to all colleagues" and "looking forward to seeing as many colleagues as possible again". The ludicrousness of the usage of this word is clear when it is being used to describe people at vastly different levels within the same organisation. E.g. "'I'm going to speak to my colleague the managing director to ask for a payrise', said the first year trainee."
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