Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • LezLee
    Full Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 634

    'To be fair'. This meaningless phrase is cropping up at the beginning or end of sentences whatever the subject matter and whoever the speaker. It is driving me up the wall!

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    • Serial_Apologist
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      • Dec 2010
      • 37314

      Originally posted by LezLee View Post
      'To be fair'. This meaningless phrase is cropping up at the beginning or end of sentences whatever the subject matter and whoever the speaker. It is driving me up the wall!
      I would use it to grant people's otherwise misunderstood beliefs, behaviours or mistakes the benefit of fair mindedness. As in, "To be fair to them...".

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      • Padraig
        Full Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 4197

        Have you heard this one?:

        Q. How many people were in the room?

        A. A non-zero number.

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        • oddoneout
          Full Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 8964

          Originally posted by LezLee View Post
          'To be fair'. This meaningless phrase is cropping up at the beginning or end of sentences whatever the subject matter and whoever the speaker. It is driving me up the wall!
          It is rather irritating, and is getting over-used perhaps, but it can be a 'soft' way of putting forward a different opinion,factual correction/addition, point of view in circumstances where that might not otherwise be well received. It avoids flatly contradicting or saying outright someone is wrong.

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          • oddoneout
            Full Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 8964

            Originally posted by Padraig View Post
            Have you heard this one?:

            Q. How many people were in the room?

            A. A non-zero number.
            Wouldn't win anything on the tombola then?

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37314

              Originally posted by oddoneout View Post
              It is rather irritating, and is getting over-used perhaps, but it can be a 'soft' way of putting forward a different opinion,factual correction/addition, point of view in circumstances where that might not otherwise be well received. It avoids flatly contradicting or saying outright someone is wrong.
              Exactly...

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22068

                Originally posted by Padraig View Post
                Have you heard this one?:

                Q. How many people were in the room?

                A. A non-zero number.
                Is that Zoom influenced?

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 29880

                  Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                  'To be fair'. This meaningless phrase is cropping up at the beginning or end of sentences whatever the subject matter and whoever the speaker. It is driving me up the wall!
                  I use that quite often to balance an argument, like 'on the one hand, on the other'.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37314

                    Originally posted by Boilk
                    'It is driving me up the wall'. This meaningless phrase is cropping up at the beginning or end of sentences whatever the subject matter and whoever the speaker, to be fair.
                    Oooer!! Touché!!!

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                    • Padraig
                      Full Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 4197

                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      Is that Zoom influenced?
                      I could well believe that, cloughie. The context in which I heard 'non-zero number' was that of court proceedings brought by Republicans over the US Election count. Lawyers were complaining that observers were not allowed in the room and it came down to the judge asking how many were actually present.

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                      • Maclintick
                        Full Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1039

                        Originally posted by Boilk
                        'It is driving me up the wall'. This meaningless phrase is cropping up at the beginning or end of sentences whatever the subject matter and whoever the speaker, to be fair.
                        It "does my head in" as well, Boilk, to be brutally honest...in a manner of speaking, as it were...

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                        • gurnemanz
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7354

                          Re To be fair...

                          To be fair, it does have an authentic and precise application (as French Frank pointed out above) but is certainly tiresome when used as an unthinking filler.

                          However punctilous we think we are, I suspect most of us have potentially annoying speech habits. I think I probably over-use "actually" which often comes out as "aksherly" or a highly reduced "akshly".

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                          • Stanfordian
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 9286

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            I use that quite often to balance an argument, like 'on the one hand, on the other'.
                            It's frequently used by players and managers in football interviews. It usually doesn't relate to any content of the conversation and has no real meaning. Infuriatingly, my son now uses it in his conversations.

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                            • LezLee
                              Full Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 634

                              Cropping up especially in property-buying programmes, we have :
                              Husband- "Yes, no, it's lovely."
                              Wife "No, I love it"

                              Aarrgghh!

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                              • Pulcinella
                                Host
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 10672

                                Originally posted by LezLee View Post
                                Cropping up especially in property-buying programmes, we have :
                                Husband- "Yes, no, it's lovely."
                                Wife "No, I love it"

                                Aarrgghh!
                                Are those the before and after 'staging' comments?

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