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  • burning dog
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 1509

    Originally posted by french frank View Post


    (That would explain why it's used by Radio 3 presenters … )
    Not long before we hear "that was a bad-ass tune!"

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    • LMcD
      Full Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 8406

      Originally posted by burning dog View Post
      Not long before we hear "that was a bad-ass tune!"
      You know, like, that Mozart wrote some banging tunes, innit?

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30243

        Originally posted by burning dog View Post
        Not long before we hear "that was a bad-ass tune!"
        One thing to be said for Tom Service: I don't think he would sink to the 'down with the kool kids' silliness.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • gurnemanz
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7380

          Easy to react against specific examples of new language usage but all usage was new once. That is how human language has evolved over approximately 50,000 years. I can't see why Radio 3 should be a sterile protected zone and its presenters should somehow be immune to current linguistic trends.

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          • french frank
            Administrator/Moderator
            • Feb 2007
            • 30243

            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
            Easy to react against specific examples of new language usage but all usage was new once. That is how human language has evolved over approximately 50,000 years. I can't see why Radio 3 should be a sterile protected zone and its presenters should somehow be immune to current linguistic trends.
            There are 'regular' forms of language evolution, most of which occur over a period of some length. There are others which never rise above the level of current 'slang'. Youth usage is indeed an interesting linguistic development, but I would hazard a guess that much of it is 'here today, gone tomorrow' and is no more than a flag of identity, not genuine linguistic evolution.
            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37591

              This morning, standing atop Broadcasting House, and powerfully framed against a backdrop of Regent Street disappearing into the distance, Jeremy Hunt called on his rival for PM Boris Johnson to "man up", and debate with him in the broadcasting media.

              Can it really still be possible for such language to be deployed in this era? It really is time for this sexist phrase "man up" to be exposed for what it is, along, with its clear implications that women, by their nature, and men who are presumably not really living up to being men, are not capable of standing up for themselves, whether as in this instance in debate, or in other areas of expectation including physical effort. I have even heard of women being expected to "man up"!

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              • Zucchini
                Guest
                • Nov 2010
                • 917

                Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                I have even heard of women being expected to "man up"!
                Times interview with Mirga G-T:
                Anne Pickard: "Did you know that a male critic said that you “needed to find your inner man” when you conducted Mahler’s First Symphony?"
                M G-T: “No. But maybe there are some quotations of a male conductor and somebody saying he needs to find his inner female in that piece"

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37591

                  Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                  Times interview with Mirga G-T:
                  Anne Pickard: "Did you know that a male critic said that you “needed to find your inner man” when you conducted Mahler’s First Symphony?"
                  M G-T: “No. But maybe there are some quotations of a male conductor and somebody saying he needs to find his inner female in that piece"
                  Similarly people being referred to as having or needing "the balls" to do the job is all a part of "manning up". I don't much like the term "ballsy" either. Following on fast from cetain gender stereotyping coming into question, it all seems to be part of the an increasingly macho culture, one in tune with the New Right, and its influence on everyday thinking, that talks about "snowflakes", and still speaks of women "deserving it", assuming when going out dressed in certain ways they have to take "the consequences". All these police cuts, after all...

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                  • ahinton
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16122

                    I wonder what Jane Manning would think about the idea of "manning up"...

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      Originally posted by Zucchini View Post
                      Times interview with Mirga G-T:
                      Anne Pickard: "Did you know that a male critic said that you “needed to find your inner man” when you conducted Mahler’s First Symphony?"
                      M G-T: “No. But maybe there are some quotations of a male conductor and somebody saying he needs to find his inner female in that piece"
                      ...anima/animus....nature/nurture....

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                      • Stanfordian
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 9308

                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        This morning, standing atop Broadcasting House, and powerfully framed against a backdrop of Regent Street disappearing into the distance, Jeremy Hunt called on his rival for PM Boris Johnson to "man up", and debate with him in the broadcasting media.

                        Can it really still be possible for such language to be deployed in this era? It really is time for this sexist phrase "man up" to be exposed for what it is, along, with its clear implications that women, by their nature, and men who are presumably not really living up to being men, are not capable of standing up for themselves, whether as in this instance in debate, or in other areas of expectation including physical effort. I have even heard of women being expected to "man up"!
                        I think 'feisty' is the word normally used.

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                        • Maclintick
                          Full Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1065

                          Originally posted by french frank View Post
                          There are 'regular' forms of language evolution, most of which occur over a period of some length. There are others which never rise above the level of current 'slang'. Youth usage is indeed an interesting linguistic development, but I would hazard a guess that much of it is 'here today, gone tomorrow' and is no more than a flag of identity, not genuine linguistic evolution.
                          On fleek, FF. Many expressions which were once "cool" have gone "termo". For instance, it's quite a while since I heard a jazz practitioner or aficionado described as "He's a real Hip Cat, Daddy-O", though I keep hoping...

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                          • cloughie
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 22115

                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            I wonder what Jane Manning would think about the idea of "manning up"...
                            Probably about the same as Ed Balls would think of... well I don’t really have to say it!
                            .

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Probably about the same as Ed Balls would think of... well I don’t really have to say it!
                              .
                              I'm sure it would cause her no Paine. (Coat already off peg.)

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                              • Boilk
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 976

                                Tory Leadership Race

                                It is not a race, there is no stopwatch, the winner isn't any faster than the loser. Why can't they simply call it for what it is ... the Tory Leadership Contest?

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