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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30243

    Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
    This is creeping into BBC speak

    E.g. [made up examples] 'MPs are returning to Westminster in what is the last week before the summer recess.'

    'Andy Murray is preparing for what is his final match.'

    I listen in vain for what this phrase adds to the meaning.
    I think the phrasing suggests an imminent event. MPs are now returning - and this will be/is the last week before …

    Andy Murray is preparing, now, for his next - imminent - match which will be his last.

    That's how I'd understand it.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • Pabmusic
      Full Member
      • May 2011
      • 5537

      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      I think the phrasing suggests an imminent event. MPs are now returning - and this will be/is the last week before …

      Andy Murray is preparing, now, for his next - imminent - match which will be his last.

      That's how I'd understand it.
      I think it's a way of emphasising the specialness of the event - not the fact that MPs are returning, but that this week will be ... [whatever]. Like every such construction, it can be overused.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37591

        Day jar view.



        Can't presenters make a modicum of effort to pronounce this phrase with at least a small nod towards correct French pronunciation?

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        • alycidon
          Full Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 459

          Like - just that - ‘like’. If I ever hear it again out of context I shall explode!
          Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37591

            Originally posted by alycidon View Post
            Like - just that - ‘like’. If I ever hear it again out of context I shall explode!
            "Like" has been around for a long time: I think I am now used to it. What really is a surprise (to me) is the manner in which everyone on telly and radio, from politicians to presenters to heads of this or that organisation, has taken to beginning a statement with "So..........." It's almost as if it has seized the collective ego like some virus; I can't recall it being as ubiquitous as it has become in the last few months.

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            • vinteuil
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12788

              Originally posted by alycidon View Post
              Like - just that - ‘like’. If I ever hear it again out of context I shall explode!
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              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
              ... everyone ... has taken to beginning a statement with "So..."
              .

              ... 'like' and 'so' are just filler words for the younger generation : in my day we probably used 'erm' or 'umm'. Not sure which shd be deemed more irritating after a time - we just have to accept it's part of how language works -



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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
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                ... 'like' and 'so' are just filler words for the younger generation : in my day we probably used 'erm' or 'umm'. Not sure which shd be deemed more irritating after a time - we just have to accept it's part of how language works -

                Yehr, know what I mean? Or is it an instruction? Know what I mean.

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                • french frank
                  Administrator/Moderator
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30243

                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  Day jar view.



                  Can't presenters make a modicum of effort to pronounce this phrase with at least a small nod towards correct French pronunciation?
                  Nong, since you're asking …

                  Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                  I think it's a way of emphasising the specialness of the event - not the fact that MPs are returning, but that this week will be ... [whatever]. Like every such construction, it can be overused.
                  I wasn't saying that the emphasis was on the returning, but the implication they were coming back for the final week before the recess: that it was the temporal aspect, not the specialness (is the final week before recess necessarily special?). This applies also to the second example: Andy Murray's preparations were for his imminent final match, not a final match that will be in six months time. I'd be happy to admit also the 'specialness' in some sense, but I still think the particular usage mentioned stresses the temporal aspect.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • cloughie
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 22115

                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    Day jar view.



                    Can't presenters make a modicum of effort to pronounce this phrase with at least a small nod towards correct French pronunciation?
                    Day Jar sounds like some container in a commode! Wouldn’t want to view it!

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      Night Jar View:

                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Serial_Apologist
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 37591

                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Night Jar View:



                        Pipped to the post!

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22115

                          Probably been aired before but I really dislike the expression ‘rocking up’ or more often than not ‘rockin’ up’.

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                          • MickyD
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 4747

                            Not sure if we have had these before, but my current pet hates are the use of 'trial' and 'gift' as verbs.

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                              Probably been aired before but I really dislike the expression ‘rocking up’ or more often than not ‘rockin’ up’.
                              Also used in the sense of "wearing" - "X was rocking a (insert outré item of clothing here)

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                              • Richard Tarleton

                                Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                                Probably been aired before but I really dislike the expression ‘rocking up’ or more often than not ‘rockin’ up’.
                                Also used in the sense of "wearing" - "X was rocking a (insert outré item of clothing or hairstyle here)"

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