Originally posted by vinteuil
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Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.
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Originally posted by jean View PostAnd then there's neoliberal, which means pretty well the opposite of what liberal means in English, and a lot more like what it means in French.
I feel a potentially stimulating discussion on conservative liberalism - acceptance of liberal (as in another definition of laisser-faire) values on eg employment and minority rights, on the grounds that groups once upon a time marginalised as scapegoats useful for purposes of legitimising the status quo and having a pool of unemployed to encourage wage restraint have been superseded by virtue of said groups having become part of the consumer demographic, whenever it suits the capitalist class, of course. But something tells me such a discussion would not be allowed to last long, on this forum.
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Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View PostNeoliberalism, so-called, might arguably be closer to classical economic liberalism, as Wiki-defined:
I feel a potentially stimulating discussion on conservative liberalism - acceptance of liberal (as in another definition of laisser-faire) values on eg employment and minority rights, on the grounds that groups once upon a time marginalised as scapegoats useful for purposes of legitimising the status quo and having a pool of unemployed to encourage wage restraint have been superseded by virtue of said groups having become part of the consumer demographic, whenever it suits the capitalist class, of course. But something tells me such a discussion would not be allowed to last long, on this forum.
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What do people make of 'seeing as' (BBC News story 'But seeing as there are 132 rooms in total …')? I would use 'considering that' and don't really buy the explanation that people do a syllable count when deciding which to use - both have only a single stressed syllable, anyway ('sid'ring that'). I would have regarded it as an 'education marker' at one time but would it now be people's preferred phrase?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostWhat do people make of 'seeing as' (BBC News story 'But seeing as there are 132 rooms in total …')? I would use 'considering that' and don't really buy the explanation that people do a syllable count when deciding which to use - both have only a single stressed syllable, anyway ('sid'ring that'). I would have regarded it as an 'education marker' at one time but would it now be people's preferred phrase?
(Sure there's a view but it is broad in application with the fact so emphasised that any concept of we/us would almost be in the fact's view - see also "in light of there being")
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