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Oh yes - and did you spot (a) Ms Rudd's "rise taxes" rather than "raise taxes" (BBC bully fest debate which I didn't view but it came up in the clips) and (b) Mrs May's astonishing use of "me" to start a sentence in one part of her party political broadcast when she meant "I". Incidentally, I am not wholly against Ms Rudd though as her ex hubby AA Gill noted "lovely girl but crazy about fracking" or something along those lines. I had assumed at the time he was speaking of her attitude towards the environment rather than language.Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
"To grow an audience". Spot on. It's dreadful. What next? "Can we grow a crowd surf?" As for reborn obsolete forms, I hover but consider that it's more by luck than judgement.Originally posted by french frank View Post
That came to me at 11 when I was sky high at English and received 13% for Latin owing to a background in speaking and listening even in the silent arts rather than anything "categorical". Should they be taught it in English when young? Perhaps but not with rigidity. I am 50% the 1940s and 50% the 1960s/1970s in my attitudes towards education.Originally posted by jean View PostLast edited by Lat-Literal; 02-06-17, 16:57.Comment
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I was only pointing out an example of its use, however. I wouldn't agree that it was 'dreadful'. It's a current usage. On the other hand I or someone else have quoted 'Spot on' as a phrase that sets someone's teeth on edge (possibly mine - I can't remember whoseOriginally posted by Lat-Literal View Post
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It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Whenever I hear the name Amber Rudd I always think it belongs to an artist's palette!Comment
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I own up to quite liking 'spot on'. Even better 'absolutely spot on'. 'Ideal, really'Originally posted by french frank View PostI was only pointing out an example of its use, however. I wouldn't agree that it was 'dreadful'. It's a current usage. On the other hand I or someone else have quoted 'Spot on' as a phrase that sets someone's teeth on edge (possibly mine - I can't remember whose)
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Or real ale.Originally posted by cloughie View Post
That wasn't the one I predicted as being contentious. Ms, fest, AA without a gap, hubby, girl, fracking.......it was a long way down the list but one lives and learns.Originally posted by french frank View PostI was only pointing out an example of its use, however. I wouldn't agree that it was 'dreadful'. It's a current usage. On the other hand I or someone else have quoted 'Spot on' as a phrase that sets someone's teeth on edge (possibly mine - I can't remember whose)
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Well, as for your first sentence you (and, to be fair, quite a few others) clearly do not understand the perfectly simple question posed to members.Originally posted by jean View Post
As for the second, well I'm simply much too kind and generous to respond in a similar manner to yourself!
PS: humble apologies for that errant apostrophe, ahinton ... well spotted once again! What would we do without you ... ?Comment
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Nevertheless you regularly claim that people don't understand things that you find "perfectly simple". On the other hand, what is this "yourself"? What's wrong with "you"? It has the double advantage over "yourself" in this context of being both more concise and grammatically correct (pardon me if this particular solecism has been discussed thoroughly on the Pedantry thread) - this use of the reflexive pronoun is, I believe, an Irishism which should according to you surely be used only by Irish people.Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View PostComment
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Or even traffic lights:Originally posted by Lat-Literal View PostOr real ale.
Green, amber, rudd;
ruddin' amber, and back to green.
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Yes, but you're Welsh ...Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
The point is that we (and the BBC) do not apparently automatically adopt every Irish word and phrase that comes to our/its attention ... or French, German, Italian or whatever equivalent. We are (or should be) selective in such cases and rightly so!
Maybe I'm just more observant than most when it comes to the now widespread adoption of utterly pointless Americanisms. It genuinely astounds me (or me-self) that others are clearly blind and deaf to these developments or, more accurately, they never ask the question 'WHY?'
Whatever, I still haven't had a proper answer to my question though I feel utterly confident that ahinton will now insist that I have ...Comment
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Perhaps you're just not very observant when it comes to seeing what the "point" of them might be. The USA is dominant in various areas of popular culture, especially the film and TV industries and mass media in general, which are obviously highly influential in promoting American English as an international lingua franca. This is the way in which "Americanisms" find their way into British English, particularly in the media - because they're current in the way of talking/writing/singing which has a more powerful presence in many people's consciousness than any other, and many people either find them useful or enjoyable to use, and/or feel they would sound old-fashioned and behind the popular-culture times if they didn't use them. That's your answer to the question "WHY?" but I'm sure you could have worked it out for yourself.Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View PostComment
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