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  • Lat-Literal
    Guest
    • Aug 2015
    • 6983

    A teenager to a shop assistant - Can I get a double cheeseburger and fries to go? Manager to shop assistants who are dawdling - Heave-ho me hearties.

    (The manager was in the navy before his early retirement and employment at McDonalds, otherwise he would have said get to work and/or off you go)

    (It would work better with fillet-o-fish but pronunciation in that regard would either be pretentious or ludicrous so the burger is probably a safer choice)
    Last edited by Lat-Literal; 12-12-16, 15:39.

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    • P. G. Tipps
      Full Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 2978

      Originally posted by jean View Post
      No, because it has to be specified that it isn't just anything that you'd go to the designated person for - it has to be something within their perceived area of expertise.

      (And nobody says 'Wouldn't it be...neater...in...saying...')
      But somebody just might!

      Surely, also, it should be 'for which you'd go to the designated person'?

      Not that I am, in any way, trying to match you in the fascinating field of grammatical pedantry, you understand.

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      • Richard Tarleton

        Originally posted by Lat-Literal View Post

        (It would work better with fillet-o-fish
        OT, a serious misnomer. I'd never set foot in a McDonalds until last year when we stopped in the service station on the way back from a concert in Swansea only to find the cafeteria area was now a McDonalds, so not a deliberate act. Not wanting a burger or the bun, I asked for a fillet o'fish and chips, twice. Should have known. What appeared was a small rectangle of something not unlike fish, a little bigger than a postage stamp. My last actual burger was at a branch of Isibeals, in Belfast, circa 1987, after a Rod Stewart concert at the Queen's Hall

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
          Surely, also, it should be 'for which you'd go to the designated person'?
          Now you're just being silly.

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          • P. G. Tipps
            Full Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 2978

            More American words and terms now widely used in the UK are 'shooter' (marksman/woman), 'conversation' (debate/discussion) and 'first responders' (emergency services).

            The last one I find particularly baffling as, apart from sounding rather clumsy, it is actually less accurate and revealing than the original, perfectly adequate UK term?
            Last edited by P. G. Tipps; 13-12-16, 14:13. Reason: Far too many particulars ...

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            • jean
              Late member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7100

              Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
              More American words and terms now widely used in the UK are 'shooter' (marksman/woman)
              I'd say a more usual UK equivalent would be gunman, since shooter is the term of choice when someone with a gun has run amok and shot and killed at random.

              We could use gunwoman too I suppose, but there aren't many of them.

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12788

                .

                ... and when did "A & E" [Accident and Emergency] take over from "Casualty"?

                And why??

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                  ... and when did "A & E" [Accident and Emergency] take over from "Casualty"?
                  And why??
                  Not sure when, but it's quite some time ago - possibly because "Casualties" in news reports has become synonymous with "deaths" ... ?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37591

                    Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                    More American words and terms now widely used in the UK are 'shooter' (marksman/woman), 'conversation' (debate/discussion) and 'first responders' (emergency services).

                    The last one in particular I find particularly baffling as, apart from sounding rather clumsy, it is actually less accurate and revealing than the original, perfectly adequate UK term?
                    'Conversation' is government code these days for insoluble problems: e.g. 'we're having conversations' about the situation of hospital bed blocking, and have no intention whatever to let local authorities raise Coucil Tax levels to help subsidise home care.

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                    • Serial_Apologist
                      Full Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 37591

                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      I'd say a more usual UK equivalent would be gunman, since shooter is the term of choice when someone with a gun has run amok and shot and killed at random.

                      We could use gunwoman too I suppose, but there aren't many of them.
                      'Shooter' is gang language for gun, in this neck of the woods.

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                      • Lat-Literal
                        Guest
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 6983

                        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                        'Conversation' is government code these days for insoluble problems: e.g. 'we're having conversations' about the situation of hospital bed blocking, and have no intention whatever to let local authorities raise Coucil Tax levels to help subsidise home care.
                        Spot on.

                        The dodgiest bigwigs in my last years of employment were very keen on it.

                        Normally in the form "we need to have a conversation about". I think it's awful.

                        The other one is "we need a story to tell" in justifying a course of action or a decision.

                        I used to ask whether "story" in that context meant lies. It didn't go down well.

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                        • vinteuil
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12788

                          .

                          ... ah, but aren't we all "on a journey"? What we need is a "narrative", - and, indeed, a "conversation".

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            'Shooter' is gang language for gun, in this neck of the woods.
                            I never had you down as a gang member!

                            If you listen to media reports of American shootings, though, the shooter is the person not the weapon.

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16122

                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              I never had you down as a gang member!

                              If you listen to media reports of American shootings, though, the shooter is the person not the weapon.
                              I thought the term for that was "shootist"...

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37591

                                Originally posted by jean View Post
                                I never had you down as a gang member!

                                If you listen to media reports of American shootings, though, the shooter is the person not the weapon.
                                I knew I'd manage to surprise you one day, jean!

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