Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Originally posted by mangerton View Post
    On R4 earlier this evening I heard an example of history being re-written. I've heard it before, and it's becoming more common.

    Reference was made to events during WW2 in "Nazi occupied France". It seems that the allies didn't fight Germany during the war, but the Nazis. I've heard the recording of the egregious N. Chamberlain many times, and he definitely said "Britain is at war with Germany". Closer to home, it was Germany my father joined the RN to fight.

    Yes, the Nazis were the ruling party, but we don't (yet at any rate) say that the Conservatives fought Argentina in 1982, or that the Republicans and the Labour party invaded Iraq in 2003.
    Too true.

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    • Pabmusic
      Full Member
      • May 2011
      • 5537

      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      Not at al Pabs - "axing" is in regular use among the Afro-Carribean community to this day in London - eg, angry customer to nervous staff member in Brixton Tesco's this morning: "You is AXING me, or you is TELLING me?"
      Which only goes to show just how difficult it is for language to disappear once it's 'out there'.

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      • Sir Velo
        Full Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 3225

        Sadly, as heard too often on Radio 3:

        "Award winning"

        "Internationally acclaimed"

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        • mercia
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8920

          I think someone on this forum complained about the phrase 'kicked off' and it didn't really register with me, but I now see it is very prevalent on the BBC news website. They never seem to use the word start or begin, it's always 'kick off', 'kicks off', 'kicked off'. I've just seen "the second world war kicked off in 1939".

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          • Pabmusic
            Full Member
            • May 2011
            • 5537

            Originally posted by mercia View Post
            I think someone on this forum complained about the phrase 'kicked off' and it didn't really register with me, but I now see it is very prevalent on the BBC news website. They never seem to use the word start or begin, it's always 'kick off', 'kicks off', 'kicked off'. I've just seen "the second world war kicked off in 1939".
            Which is a dreadful use of the phrase. If you are going to use it at all, use it for a voluntary beginning, just as you'd find at a football match. "Regular broadcasts of the BBC Symphony Orchestra kicked off in 1930" (or whatever it was) - which is dire writing, but at least retains a sense of the culmination of voluntary effort. To have a war "kicking off" reduces it to the level of a football match.

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            • Mandryka

              Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
              Which is a dreadful use of the phrase. If you are going to use it at all, use it for a voluntary beginning, just as you'd find at a football match. "Regular broadcasts of the BBC Symphony Orchestra kicked off in 1930" (or whatever it was) - which is dire writing, but at least retains a sense of the culmination of voluntary effort. To have a war "kicking off" reduces it to the level of a football match.
              I suspect that is the whole point (though I don't like it, either).

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              • kernelbogey
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 5736

                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                I think someone on this forum complained about the phrase 'kicked off' and it didn't really register with me, but I now see it is very prevalent on the BBC news website. They never seem to use the word start or begin, it's always 'kick off', 'kicks off', 'kicked off'. I've just seen "the second world war kicked off in 1939".
                Ah yes, and 'kick start'.

                I don't know exactly when the manufacture of kick start motorbikes ended - but I'd guess it's now close to fifty years, which makes the persistent use of this lazy and odious phrase extraordinarily anachronistic.

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16122

                  "Kick into touch" isn't much better either.

                  That said, it might be argued that there is a certain potential dangerous outcome of the habitual invention and plugging of soundbitten phrases in that the proportion of phraseolgies that thereby get turned into cliché becomes ever greater...

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                  • kernelbogey
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5736

                    And 'kick into the long grass'.

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16122

                      Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                      And 'kick into the long grass'.
                      Indeed; whenever I hear that one I feel like asking the perpetrator if his mower's broken down.

                      Time to kick this habit, though, peut-ĂȘtre...

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                      • kernelbogey
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5736

                        English is replete with seafaring metaphors from our glorious naval past.... we seem now to be substituting football and other sporting metaphors.

                        I could be sick as a parrot sometimes.

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                        • mangerton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3346

                          Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                          English is replete with seafaring metaphors from our glorious naval past.... we seem now to be substituting football and other sporting metaphors.

                          I could be sick as a parrot sometimes.
                          So could I, but I try to turn a blind eye to them, or hit them for six.

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                          • kernelbogey
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 5736

                            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                            So could I, but I try to turn a blind eye to them, or hit them for six.

                            Always clear the decks in case they come out of left field.

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                            • Richard Tarleton

                              Another regular weatherman platitude last night - "Not all doom and gloom". But this also turns out to be (almost) the title of the Rolling Stones' latest hit single

                              Driving to Cardiff yesterday - tiny T-shirt in rear window of passing car emblazoned with "Small dude on board". This and its female equivalent "Little princess on board" fill me with the urge to smash into the back of the car.

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                              • 3rd Viennese School

                                Quite a few ideas to run up the flag pole here!

                                What it is is....

                                And the one the boss uses to justify EVERYTHING

                                "we're all under pressure!"

                                3VS
                                Last edited by Guest; 09-11-12, 13:40. Reason: sppellin misstayks

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