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  • Pabmusic
    Full Member
    • May 2011
    • 5537

    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    memories can be recent......
    Really??

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    • jean
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7100

      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
      The related phrase ("Get a ...") brings back memories.
      Of the allusion, or the fact?

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      • jean
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7100

        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
        Good Morning ...

        I don't see the usefulness of the phrase at all, I'm afraid.

        It's surely sufficient simply to predict that "something" is most unlikely to happen. To add 'any time soon' suggests a degree of uncertainty in the prediction of the non-appearance of the "something", a sort of political-style 'escape-clause' if the "something" does happen, thanks to one's own definition of 'soon'...
        True enough, the phrase under discussion won't fit comfortably into the sort of arch, old-fashioned, super-pedantic way of talking of which this post is such a good example.

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        • Pabmusic
          Full Member
          • May 2011
          • 5537

          Originally posted by jean View Post
          Of the allusion, or the fact?
          The fact. Or what I thought was the fact.

          Or what might have been the fact, even if I hadn't thought of it.

          Or...

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26523

            Originally posted by jean View Post
            True enough, the phrase under discussion won't fit comfortably into the sort of arch, old-fashioned, super-pedantic way of talking of which this post is such a good example.


            I do agree that the now-vexed 'any time soon' has its own little special and useful meaning. That doesn't necessarily stop it being annoying. A number of the 'management speak' phrases that lead to dental grinding nonetheless do have a compact meaning which may be difficult to convey as succinctly in 'non-annoying' language, hence the fact that they catch on. Is there an alternative phrase that conveys the full meaning of 'blue-sky thinking' in four syllables?
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • antongould
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 8780

              Originally posted by Caliban View Post


              I do agree that the now-vexed 'any time soon' has its own little special and useful meaning. That doesn't necessarily stop it being annoying. A number of the 'management speak' phrases that lead to dental grinding nonetheless do have a compact meaning which may be difficult to convey as succinctly in 'non-annoying' language, hence the fact that they catch on. Is there an alternative phrase that conveys the full meaning of 'blue-sky thinking' in four syllables?
              ... Balderdash?

              I could also think of another beginning with b ......

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12788

                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                Is there an alternative phrase that conveys the full meaning of 'blue-sky thinking' in four syllables?

                ... "outside the box" ?

                No, didn't think you'ld like it....

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37591

                  Originally posted by antongould View Post
                  ... Balderdash?

                  I could also think of another beginning with b ......
                  That's only three syllables, if you exclude the question mark.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26523

                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    That's only three syllables, if you exclude the question mark.


                    ok ok I should have said 'four syllables or fewer' ...

                    Actually, as regards 'any time soon' - what's wrong with the less artful and annoying 'in the near future'?

                    That's not going happen in the near future...

                    Means just about the same, doesn't it?
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • P. G. Tipps
                      Full Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 2978

                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      True enough, the phrase under discussion won't fit comfortably into the sort of arch, old-fashioned, super-pedantic way of talking of which this post is such a good example.
                      Accuracy and an avoidance of meaningless phrases, whether the language be deemed by one as 'old-fashioned' or "new-fangled", are rather different from pedantry, super or otherwise, madam ...

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Actually, as regards 'any time soon' - what's wrong with the less artful and annoying 'in the near future'?
                        It's got five syllables.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Nick Armstrong
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26523

                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          It's got five syllables.


                          I was talking about something else!

                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25193

                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            It's got five syllables.
                            There are choirs that could get a lot more than 5 syllables out of that phrase.
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30245

                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              It's got five syllables.
                              In fact, if you compare 'ANytime SOON' with 'IN the near FUTure', rhythmically they would naturally both have two stresses (oh, yes they would!). I forgot 'near future' when I said in the foreseeable/immediate future. You even have the option of giving it the nuance 'in the VERY near future'.

                              I'm not sure why it matters that there is nothing 'funny' about it, and 'anytime soon' is only 'funny' in a kind of arch sense ('Listen to me saying 'anytime soon' ho, ho'). Post-modern irony. And how annoying is THAT?

                              In my opinion.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12788

                                I have no problem with 'anytime soon'.

                                There is surely a difference between -

                                "I won't be doing that anytime soon"

                                and

                                "I won't be doing that in the near future"

                                Just what is the objection to "anytime soon"?

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