Disrespect as a verb. Ideation. Both disliked here.
Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.
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Originally posted by jean View PostBut what other phrase does what's wanted quite so neatly?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by gradus View PostDisrespect as a verb...
1633 Bp. J. Hall Plaine Explic. Hard Texts ii. 11 If he love the one, hee must disrespect the other.
1683 W. Cave Ecclesiastici 231 (Basil) To honor him, and dis-respect his Friend, was to stroke a man's head with one hand, and strike him with the other.
1706 T. Hearne Remarks & Coll. 26 Apr. He was disrespected in Oxford by several men who now speak well of him.
1852 L. Hunt Poems Pref. 27 As if..sorrow disrespected things homely.
1885 G. Meredith Diana of Crossways I. 257 You will judge whether he disrespects me.
I think it may have dropped out of use for a while, but I don't see why it shouldn't come back!
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Originally posted by jean View PostDoesn't really work with a negative, does it?
'No reason to think we'll all shortly turn American, or perhaps 'all be shortly/soon turning American'.
No 'neater' but the exact equivalents which have always served would be 'in the forseeable or immediate future'.
The primary reason for new coinages or borrowings is in order to speak about an idea or thing for which there is currently no adequate expression. This example seems to me to be in the same category as speaking of a 'cook book' rather than a 'cookery book': people have heard it commonly used so they fall into the habit of using it. This is particularly true of younger people whose linguistic habits have not become so entrenched.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post??
'No reason to think we'll all shortly turn American, or perhaps 'all be shortly/soon turning American'.
The primary reason for new coinages or borrowings is in order to speak about an idea or thing for which there is currently no adequate expression.
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Originally posted by jean View PostI was thinking more of a negative in the same phrase, eg 'We won't be doing that any time soon.' I rather like it. It's funny, which is as good a reason as any for it to exist. 'in the forseeable or immediate future' is not funny at all.
It's a reason, and a good one - but it is not the only reason, and I'm not sure I'd even say it was the primary one.
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Originally posted by Pabmusic View PostI agree with you, Jean. In the case of "any time soon", there's a subtlety of meaning that "shortly" doesn't have, namely that it's more emphatic - "definitely at no time in the near future" (implied: however much you plead/hope/whine). "Definitely not shortly" doesn't carry that emphasis (at least to me) - it seems discursive, almost as if there's a missing "what do you think?"
I don't see the usefulness of the phrase at all, I'm afraid.
It's surely sufficient simply to predict that "something" is most unlikely to happen. To add 'any time soon' suggests a degree of uncertainty in the prediction of the non-appearance of the "something", a sort of political-style 'escape-clause' if the "something" does happen, thanks to one's own definition of 'soon'.
Surely it's more meaningful to use a phrase such as 'in our lifetimes' though admittedly we could all 'pop our clogs' tomorrow.
Then we all might be 'well past caring'.
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Originally posted by Pabmusic View PostHello, P.G.
Well, I'm not going to 'die in a ditch' about it.
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by teamsaint View Postyou're obviously not a pilot in your spare time, Pabs.
http://www.bannedphrases.co.uk/aircr...ie-in-a-ditch/
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