Phrases/words that set your teeth on edge.

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  • mercia
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8920

    I associate curators with museums - I wouldn't like to think of Radio 3 as a museum

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    • jean
      Late member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7100

      Originally posted by mercia View Post
      I associate curators with museums...
      Museums, galleries, whatever. But we weren't given a specific context within which grating took place.

      (Ed: Someone's talking about a 'curator' at London Zoo on R4 at this moment!)

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      Last edited by jean; 06-10-15, 12:53.

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      • vinteuil
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 12788

        My earlier objection to the verb curate was to its use in recent broadcasting etc media meaning 'to programme a concert / a series of concerts'. Of course I'm very happy for museum curators to go on curating. Tho' as far as museums are concerned I've always liked the term 'Keeper'...
        Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 06-10-15, 17:26. Reason: Post-merger pruning

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Someone who curates a particular art exhibition - a very common use of the word these days - isn't best described as a keeper. Indeed, one of their chief tasks is to get other collections to relinquish pieces, even if only for a limited period...

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          • vinteuil
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 12788

            ... a curator of an exhibition is of course not a Keeper.

            I merely said that as far as museums were concerned I had always liked the term Keeper.

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            • teamsaint
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 25193

              lets hope it doesn't all spread to the beautiful game.

              I can't see "Goal Curator" catching on though.
              Perhaps in cricket,......
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                lets hope it doesn't all spread to the beautiful game.

                I can't see "Goal Curator" catching on though.
                Perhaps in cricket,......
                Since curation is about tending, looking after, managing (it originally related to sickness), it would indeed be in appropriate if used in place of goal-keeping, However, when applied with regard to musical events, etc, it seems fairly apposite to me.

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                • vinteuil
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12788

                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                  .... curation ... when applied with regard to musical events, etc, ... seems fairly apposite to me.
                  ... it seems to be a recent usage. It may well settle in to the language, and then won't cause any raised eyebrows. To my ears, this new use at the moment sounds pretentious and pompous. I am probably not an early adopter...

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                  • jean
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7100

                    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                    Since curation is about tending, looking after, managing (it originally related to sickness)...
                    Actually, that seems to be one area it never applied to (unless you're talking about mental illness, sufferers from which needed some kind of legal guardian).

                    There was a time when curator was used interchangably with curate, for one who had a cure of souls:

                    1377 Piers Plowman B. xx. 279 For persones and parish prestes þat shulde þe peple shryue, Ben curatoures called to knowe and to hele, Alle þat ben her parisshiens.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Originally posted by jean View Post
                      Actually, that seems to be one area it never applied to (unless you're talking about mental illness, sufferers from which needed some kind of legal guardian).

                      There was a time when curator was used interchangably with curate, for one who had a cure of souls:

                      1377 Piers Plowman B. xx. 279 For persones and parish prestes þat shulde þe peple shryue, Ben curatoures called to knowe and to hele, Alle þat ben her parisshiens.
                      "curing of disease, restoration to health," from Old French curacion "treatment of… See origin and meaning of curation.

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                      • VodkaDilc

                        Kick off, when applied to anything without a ball - e.g. 'the concert kicks off with The Hebrides Overture.'

                        Grow, when it's not connected with cabbages or hair - e.g. 'we are growing our business in Europe.'

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                        • jean
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7100

                          The OED doesn't agree. Neither does Lewis and Short.

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 24688

                            Originally posted by jean View Post
                            The OED doesn't agree. Neither does Lewis and Short.
                            You clearly have a different edition of the OED to mine which gives the medical use as its primary origin. Bear in mind that the word I was referring to is "curation": "the action of curing; healing, cure".

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                            • visualnickmos
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3609

                              "On your head, be it" has to be one of my verbal bêtes noires

                              and worst, worst of all, the use of the word 'boast' as in, for example ".....the village boasts 4 pubs, and 3 restaurants"

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                              • jean
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7100

                                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                                You clearly have a different edition of the OED to mine which gives the medical use as its primary origin. Bear in mind that the word I was referring to is "curation": "the action of curing; healing, cure".
                                I see; I thought we were still talking about curator, which does not seem to be used of a healer.

                                Latin curatio is always used of administration or management or legal guardianship rather than healing, though the verb curare sometimes has the modern sense cure.

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