Trump Golf Course Doc BBC2 Sunday, 21st Oct

[eighthobstruction]

While the programme was limited to the effort of one reporter, who obviously probably had time and money/logistical restraints, I could not believe the lack of Dept of the Environments constant inspection and supervision of the site....I had expected that these protesters (residents) had their act together and had fielded widely for support. It seems that they didn't have the; can I say savvy, that I thought they had, and were slow to get and seek help actively or imaginatively. They were mostly on their own with little offensive legal support, which could surely have stopped this through legal means. I'm surprised how much they were on their own.
The piling of the soil scrapings into salient/embankments infront of the peoples houses, and the loss of water was extraordinary, that they were not supported by legal injunctions and interjections....

All very very sad, shocking , shaming etc etc....and strange that it was not covered better media wise this side of the border (and possibly the Scots side too)....except for an Emily Maitlis programme generally about Trump which included a short segment on this,it passed by my 'news junky'/'current affairs junky' vision, except for what was on news bulletins.

This is DEFINITELY the case for another Public Enquiry....it really should be scrutinized down to the smallest detail.... surely there must be people calling for one already....

....sorry for poor grammar....but I'm incensed....

[MrGongGong]

Well I'd rather have Trump's gof course than all those bloody windmills.

This is ridiculous IMV
the windmills are rather beautiful
and actually contribute something (it's very windy there you know and they are at sea !!)
whereas the golf course is a simple act of arrogant destruction

[An_Inspector_Calls]

I wasn't thinking of the offshore windmills (I don't think Scotland has any) but those on land, esp. in the Southern Uplands

[MrGongGong]

I wasn't thinking of the offshore windmills (I don't think Scotland has any) but those on land, esp. in the Southern Uplands

I don't mind the windmills it's all those conifer forests that spoil the landscape I can't stand


(the windfarm that trump objects to IS offshore )

and

http://www.offshorewindscotland.org.uk/index.php/journey_to_2050/scotlands_offshore_wind_sites

[An_Inspector_Calls]

If you don't mind windmills I'll bet you're a townie.

I don't like the conifers either. Of course, they were largely a tax scam, unlike the windmills which are largely a subsidy scam.

And none of your offshore Scottish windfarms has been built yet, but there's bloody hundreds of the buggers plastering the Southern Uplands.

[MrGongGong]

I don't like the conifers either. Of course, they were largely a tax scam, unlike the windmills which are largely a subsidy scam.

And none of your offshore Scottish windfarms have been built yet, but there's bloody hundreds of the buggers plastering the Southern Uplands.

Scotland's first offshore wind turbine was placed near the Beatrice Oil Field, 15 miles off the east coast in the Moray Firth, North Sea, in August 2006. This was the world's largest wind turbine at the time, an REpower 5M, with a maximum output of 5MW. A second identical turbine joined it and the wind farm began supplying electricity in August 2007.[16] As of February 2010, Beatrice Wind Farm is the deepest and northernmost offshore wind installation in the world.

funny thing the internet
you can find out things you don't know

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Two windmills do not a windfarm make. I'll bet there are weeny windmills on most of the oil platforms if you really want to prove me wrong.

[mangerton]

Two windmills do not a windfarm make. I'll bet there are weeny windmills on most of the oil platforms if you really want to prove me wrong.

Just you wait till they start planting the off-shore conifer forests!

Seriously, Trump has got a damned cheek, im (and many others') ho.

Draco spoke about forceful evictions in China. This whole sorry story reminds me of forceful evictions much nearer home - the Highland Clearances.

[aeolium]

This whole sorry story reminds me of forceful evictions much nearer home - the Highland Clearances.

That same comparison was made in the documentary, mangerton.

[teamsaint]

Well I'd rather have Trump's golf course than all those bloody windmills.

Now THAT is a principled stand.
Perhaps it could all be solved with a two way poll on Sky News. "windmills or golf? What do you think?"

[Flosshilde]

They were mostly on their own with little offensive legal support, which could surely have stopped this through legal means. I'm surprised how much they were on their own.
The piling of the soil scrapings into salient/embankments infront of the peoples houses, and the loss of water was extraordinary, that they were not supported by legal injunctions and interjections....

The people living there did/do have support from campaigners. The trouble is that legal help costs an enourmous amount, and apparently lawyers are not allowed, by the Law Society, to give their services for free (my partner was told that by a lawyer during another campaign). When you are facing an enemy with the resources of the Trumpery it discourages you from the start.

[MrGongGong]

I think sadly there will be no justice for those living there
or the environment
a sad indictment of what is seen to be valuable in the UK today ..........

it really is often a waste of time thinking that the law will somehow protect you when you are up against someone like Trump

and a suitable piece of music ............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ueTcLjrYKc

[DracoM]

Just delighted that the BBC had the vision and conscience to air the programme.

[mangerton]

That same comparison was made in the documentary, mangerton.

Interesting, thanks. I didn't watch it. I'll catch it on the iplayer probably tomorrow.

The Clearances are still an extremely sore point, even after 200 years.

[scottycelt]

Just delighted that the BBC had the vision and conscience to air the programme.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of golf-courses and wind-farms, maybe a tad far-fetched and ironic given what is all over the headline news at present ...?