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  • mangerton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3346

    Originally posted by Anna View Post
    I thought it a very interesting programme (with a good soundtrack) I have no idea The Flying Scotsman spent time in America nor that it had bankrupted threee owners (I think, as mentioned in the programme, like others I thought it had automatically gone to the museum at York.) I've found the full BBC documentary featured in the programme (but not viewed it) and there are lots more clips of steam locos on the page. http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/steamtrains/7307.shtml

    I cannot claim to have seen any famous locos but a great-grandfather was a boiler maker for GWR at Swindon .....
    Yes, it was an interesting programme, and the links on the BBC website are well worth following up.

    I had a great uncle who was killed in a shunting accident on the North British Railway in 1912, and more happily another relative who was an engine driver around that time.

    As last night's programme made clear, working conditions on the railways - and indeed everywhere else - were grim in comparison to today's.

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    • Mahler's3rd

      Hi Eine Alpensinfonie, your right it was a class 50 Diesel "50007" Named Sir Edward Elgar, it was named thus as part of the celebration's for GWR150 in 1985, resprayed in Brunswick Green and was joined in that livery for a while along with some other loco's, 47484 "Isambard Kingdom Brunel", being another. Thought the documentary on The Flying Scotsman was excellent. Incidentally is there any friends/colleagues here planning on going to York in July to see The Line Up of all remaining A4's, 6 in total, it will be a one off, never to be repeated as two of them are going back over the atlantic

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26575

        Originally posted by Anna View Post
        I thought it a very interesting programme (with a good soundtrack) I have no idea The Flying Scotsman spent time in America nor that it had bankrupted threee owners (I think, as mentioned in the programme, like others I thought it had automatically gone to the museum at York.) I've found the full BBC documentary featured in the programme (but not viewed it) and there are lots more clips of steam locos on the page. http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/steamtrains/7307.shtml
        Originally posted by Mahler's3rd View Post
        Thought the documentary on The Flying Scotsman was excellent. Incidentally is there any friends/colleagues here planning on going to York in July to see The Line Up of all remaining A4's, 6 in total, it will be a one off, never to be repeated as two of them are going back over the atlantic
        Agree about the doc. and like you Anna, I had no idea of its 'private' life after sale by BR. That would explain why and how I saw it passing Nottingham when I was a youngster in the later 60s...

        Got details of that York event, Mahlers?
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Gordon
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1425

          Originally posted by Mahler's3rd View Post
          Hi Eine Alpensinfonie, your right it was a class 50 Diesel "50007" Named Sir Edward Elgar, it was named thus as part of the celebration's for GWR150 in 1985, resprayed in Brunswick Green and was joined in that livery for a while along with some other loco's, 47484 "Isambard Kingdom Brunel", being another. Thought the documentary on The Flying Scotsman was excellent. Incidentally is there any friends/colleagues here planning on going to York in July to see The Line Up of all remaining A4's, 6 in total, it will be a one off, never to be repeated as two of them are going back over the atlantic
          No, but am going up the ECML to York from the X behind UoSA in June!! Platform 3 I wonder?! or perhaps 9 1/2. Then again given the new James Bond livery on a newly painted 225 set it could be Platform 007!!

          photo courtesy Railway Magazine with apologies!!
          Last edited by Gordon; 05-03-13, 12:58.

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          • mangerton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3346

            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            Agree about the doc. and like you Anna, I had no idea of its 'private' life after sale by BR. That would explain why and how I saw it passing Nottingham when I was a youngster in the later 60s...

            Got details of that York event, Mahlers?
            Information here, Caliban.

            Mahler's 3rd, thanks for the info. I had forgotten about this. I'll need to see if I can get down.

            There was a time in my life when I saw an A4 every day.
            Last edited by mangerton; 05-03-13, 15:28.

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            • Mahler's3rd

              Hi Caliban, here is the link for the NRM Mallard 75


              All Six Together "A One Off"

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              • Mahler's3rd

                Thats sounds great Gordon, living in Bristol we don't see A4's that often for obvious reasons, though Bittern made a couple of stops last year on tours when it was in Garter Blue masquerading as "Dominon Of Canada". I'd love to do the whole ECML behind D9000 "Royal Scots Grey", now theres a thought

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                • Anna

                  I so want to go to that exhibition of the A4's in York!! Unfortunately I'm a long way from a station and to get from here to station and then to York via Manchester or Birmingham is over 5 hours journey so realistically would mean an overnight in York to do the museum in comfort the next day (I imagine there might be long queues to get in?) BUT as I promised to stay with my sister in Co. Durham sometime this year, although again she's an hour from Darlington station it's then only half-an-hour to York station so that would be more than possible for a day trip during my stay.
                  We could have a R3 meet-up underneath the clock or in the Brief Encounter cafe!

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                  • Gordon
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1425

                    Originally posted by Mahler's3rd View Post
                    Thats sounds great Gordon, living in Bristol we don't see A4's that often for obvious reasons, though Bittern made a couple of stops last year on tours when it was in Garter Blue masquerading as "Dominon Of Canada". I'd love to do the whole ECML behind D9000 "Royal Scots Grey", now theres a thought
                    Wot, not a King or a Western? from where you come from I'd have thought you'd be a GWR man!! Mind you when those Deltics are in full cry they make a tremendous racket!! Have you seen how that engine works - fantastic!! No stem/poppet valves or camshafts etc, just the 36 pistons in a two stroke.

                    Go here for a bit of fun!! [URL]http://www.wis.co.uk/justin/deltic-engine.html[/QUOTE]

                    and here:

                    [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3GUqAu-Z2M[/QUOTE]

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26575

                      Originally posted by Anna View Post
                      I so want to go to that exhibition of the A4's in York!! Unfortunately I'm a long way from a station and to get from here to station and then to York via Manchester or Birmingham is over 5 hours journey so realistically would mean an overnight in York to do the museum in comfort the next day (I imagine there might be long queues to get in?) BUT as I promised to stay with my sister in Co. Durham sometime this year, although again she's an hour from Darlington station it's then only half-an-hour to York station so that would be more than possible for a day trip during my stay.
                      We could have a R3 meet-up underneath the clock or in the Brief Encounter cafe!
                      Now there's an idea! Maybe I could bring my friend along who is Celia Johnson's grand-daughter - she can play the tea lady

                      I too am sorely tempted to make a trip of it... Could tie up with a family visit to rellies not too far away, as well, so do a duty en même temps... To be thought on...

                      Thanks to M3 and mangie for the links, anyway!
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Don Petter

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Now there's an idea! Maybe I could bring my friend along who is Celia Johnson's grand-daughter - she can play the tea lady

                        Are you confusing York with Carnforth? Don't go to the latter by mistake!

                        (Steamtown closed to the public quite a time ago, much to my disappointment, but there is quite a lot of the 'Brief Encounter Experience' on Carnforth station.)

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                        • Don Petter

                          Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                          Yes, it was an interesting programme, and the links on the BBC website are well worth following up.
                          I enjoyed the programme as well, though, as predicted, they did imply that once 4472 had been named after the already existing Kings Cross to Edinburgh service it was always that loco which hauled that train.

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                          • alycidon
                            Full Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 459

                            I've not managed to read all the replies, but for me the North Yorkshire Moors Railway floats my boat - there's a mixed metaphor if you like! Grosmont station has it all - junction with Network Rail, level crossing, three platforms and four tracks - I could go on.

                            I am also sure that I would like the West Somerset, but as it is nearly 600 miles away I'm probably unlikely to see it.
                            Money can't buy you happiness............but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery - Spike Milligan

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                            • Mahler's3rd

                              Hi Gordon, We we're supposed to be getting King Edward II down here for a bit, I understood is was one of the locos booked to do The Torbay Express runs, alas it's still at Didcot I think and King Edward I is in bits on the West Somerset Railway being overhauled, now The Western's we're fabulous, there's one due on the main line again soon, D1015 Western Champion with an excursion through Bristol on 27th April. But The Deltics were awesome, they take the whole thing up several notches, Thank's for the links

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                              • Anna

                                Originally posted by Mahler's3rd View Post
                                , now The Western's we're fabulous, there's one due on the main line again soon, D1015 Western Champion with an excursion through Bristol on 27th April. But The Deltics were awesome, they take the whole thing up several notches, Thank's for the links
                                Info on this please Mahler3 when you have time (I didn't realise you were going loco down in Brizzle!) I can get to Bristol without too much bother

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