Annoying R3 Trailers

[Serial_Apologist]

Like sludge in a badly maintained seweage system it all amounts to a kind of ideological trickle down. Most of these trailers seem intent on taking their cues from the moronic vacuity of irrelevance that characterises much of today's TV advertising - which, in turn, says a lot about the mentality of grossly overpaid execs running the business concerns which we are all forced to depend on. As I tell supermarket checkout operants when they throw up their hands in despair, it would be run better were you lot to take over.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Workers in franchise outlets unite! You have nothing to lose but their chains!

[Serial_Apologist]

Workers in franchise outlets unite! You have nothing to lose but their chains!

We now need to link our chain reactions to counter the chain reactionaries!

[cloughie]

I'm unsure why playing more music isn't considered as the solution! I doubt the trailers actually needed.

Some twit on the production side has probably said ‘we can’t play full works and longer pieces as then we can’t get our trailers in’. Actually there is a song called ‘Trailer Trash’ on an Elkie Brooks album. We should dedicate it to anyone at the BBC who has ever been involved in Trailers in any way!

[french frank]

We should dedicate it to anyone at the BBC who has ever been involved in Trailers in any way!

I got into real hot water on the old BBC messageboards for suggesting the guy in charge of producing trails (who I happened to know had a degree in music from Bristol University) should go to RW and ask for a real job. The chap complained that I'd been rude about him, whereas I felt it was a compliment - saying that he was worthy of something better than producing programme trails.

Must have been a long time ago - I was quite young in those days.

[muzzer]

It's the Sarah Walker Sunday Morning trailer that gets me needing the Remipril - talking over Butterworth's Shropshire Lad, she declares that the second half of her show is concerned with "creativity and all things creative" - so what the givl is the first half about, then???!!!

.... and ... b r e a t h e ... three, four ... and o u t .... three, four ...

Is that the one where she likens her show to a roast dinner? Nauseating

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

There must be a trailer manager who is a complete moron. They're all in the same simpering mode, usually treating great music as muzak.



And I used to like KD.

[teamsaint]

The Sarah Walker ones are awful.
But they have the one( Possibly, almost, but not quite in fact ) redeeming feature of being for her own show on the same station.

The R4 ones are simply an instant and literal turn off. Its a simple proposition. If I want to listen to R4 then I will . But they really aren’t going to persuade me to by advertising on another station, one I put on as part of a strategy to avoid R4 and the other 24 hour news media.

But then, the BBC management do seem to think that “ their “ audience , for the most part, is gullible, persuadable, and with with really very limited critical faculties, and as obsessed with celebrity as they are.

[Serial_Apologist]

The Sarah Walker ones are awful.
But they have the one( Possibly, almost, but not quite in fact ) redeeming feature of being for her own show on the same station.

The R4 ones are simply an instant and literal turn off. Its a simple proposition. If I want to listen to R4 then I will . But they really aren’t going to persuade me to by advertising on another station, one I put on as part of a strategy to avoid R4 and the other 24 hour news media.

But then, the BBC management do seem to think that “ their “ audience , for the most part, is gullible, persuadable, and with with really very limited critical faculties, and as obsessed with celebrity as they are.

Well said, teamy!

In fact, I would go so far as to say the BBC management is part of the same grooming outfit that produces infantilising a TV adverts.

Some great books and articles have been written, and lectures delivered, pointing all this out for a number of years now. They were ahead of the game which no one could then possibly envisage as descending to the recycled soiled nappy-strewn pits they now play out their dummy sucking fantasies in.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

We've just had a KD Sound of Dance interruption, in the middle of Record Review.

Do they really want us to switch off?

[LMcD]

I think it's more likely that they want us to switch ON to 'Strictly' on BBC 1, the promotion of which is which is almost as pervasive and relentless as that for 'Bodyguard', which latter programme I would be watching without the help of trailers. Like it or not, successful TV programmes are now regarded by somebody or other as mainstream news and this is yet another, thinly disguised, form of trailer.
How long before there's a BAFTA award for Best Trailer, I wonder.
I don't suppose it doesn't do any harm to promote Sarah Walker's programme on Radio 4, even it only offers a means of escape from Brexitus Maxissimus.

[Frances_iom]

Do they really want us to switch off?

depends on who the 'us' is - the old fogies who used to be R3 listeners can go hang as the Beeb wants to have a populist audience who can easily in the near future be sold off to an advertising driven channel - my only surprise is that R3 has lasted so long which I put down to the Tory party being too busy self destructing to get down to privatising the BBC

[DracoM]

[Old Grumpy]

Entirely agree with all the comments on this thread in the recent (and distant past). I am getting thoroughly sick of hearing the same inane trails again and again. I am perfectly capable of finding out what is to be broadcast on Radio 4, should I wish to listen to Radio 4 (or indeed have Sunday lunch with Sarah Walker...).

OG

[french frank]

How long before there's a BAFTA award for Best Trailer, I wonder.

The old Sony Radio Awards used to have a category for the best promotional campaign. Radio 3 won it one year - I think for that pan-BBC trail with the sound spot: Rob inviting people to 'Step into our world'. It was Red Bee Media who made the trails though, not Radio 3. And of course they weren't on Radio 3 itself anyway. You don't invite someone to your party when they're already there, slurping your prosecco.