Annoying R3 Trailers

[Ein Heldenleben]

It may be overplayed but for whatever reason I don't hear it that much which, combined with my lack of academic musical knowledge, means I can just enjoy it when it does appear. I have a hunch that the things you find wanting/less than satisfactory(and I am not going to argue about them - as I say I can't) may well be what makes it popular with many folk, especially those who are not "classical music" afficionados or who encounter it for the first time. The opening chords may be OTT but they sure grab the attention and make it clear that this is about the piano, and also play into the image of a piano virtuoso performer/piece. It has tunes, and plenty of soloist action the length of the instrument.
Mention of reminds me of a concert I went to up in Scotland many years ago where the "other" Mendelssohn violin concerto was being put forward as unjustly neglected. The friend sitting next to me asked at the end what I thought of it and I remarked that it was surprising what could be done with scales and arpeggios - as that was the over-riding( and not very interesting) impression I got, despite the actual playing being beyond reproach. I don't get that reaction to the Grieg version although I accept the musical effect may be in doubt for the analytical.

And, to get back on topic for a minute. As my R3 listening is now so minimal the trailers are an even bigger source for resentment, not only for reducing programme content even further, but also because having to use the mute button with its associated risk of forgetting to un-mute now has a proportionally greater effect as well.

Apologies for the re diversion

but IT’S ON AGAIN .

At least the third movement is . Very well played by Leif Ove Andsnes with tremendous attack but that soppy second theme I mean really ….. Here come those scales , chromatic octaves , interlocking diminished 7ths , banging left hand chords and arpeggios….and that terrible tutti rehash of the soppy second plus tacky piano re re hash . I love it really .

[LMcD]

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But Even the famous Andy Preview octave opening sounds ridiculously over the top. [QUOTE]

He was introduced as Andrew Preview in the 1971 Morecambe and Wise Christmas special, and at one point Ernie Wise called him 'Privet'.

[Ein Heldenleben]

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But Even the famous Andy Preview octave opening sounds ridiculously over the top.

He was introduced as Andrew Preview in the 1971 Morecambe and Wise Christmas special, and at one point Ernie Wise called him 'Privet'.

Apologies for using the diminutive . He was and is for ever more Andrew.
I’m sure on one version I’ve seen he smudges one of the octaves and Eric says “see you can’t play it either “- that might be the lesser known black and white (ITV?) version with a different pianist which rarely surfaces,

[vinteuil]

Snob! Elitist! - 'im not you :-) Philosophers tend to make these sage statements which in the end strike me as nothing more than broad but shallow opinion. Which satisfies them greatly and are but air. In any case, one may be a pig and a fool in one matter and a human being in all others. Whereas the human being in that matter may be a pig and a fool in everything else. Tut!

... a little unfair. Mill is making the necessary riposte to Bentham's 'calculus of pleasure', pointing out (surprise surprise) that it's a bit more complicated than that, and that 'pleasure' isn't everything -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicific_calculus

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[LMcD]

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But Even the famous Andy Preview octave opening sounds ridiculously over the top.

Apologies for using the diminutive . He was and is for ever more Andrew.
I’m sure on one version I’ve seen he smudges one of the octaves and Eric says “see you can’t play it either “- that might be the lesser known black and white (ITV?) version with a different pianist which rarely surfaces,

The original version featured in a 1963 episode of the the third season of Associated Television's 'Two Of A Kind', with Ernie as the conductor.

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[Paulie55]

A regular and tiresome interruption to most programmes on Radio 3. It's now got to the point where I turn off and then decide to retune to Classic FM, for my sins.

[DracoM]

Ahem......................NauseAm.......

[Ein Heldenleben]

I was thinking how few Proms trails I’d heard this year compared with last. But I was out for two days last week . So far today only heard one (plus many talkups)
Shouldnt it be retagged “the Worlds Greatest Classical music festival with some light music , Broadway , jazz and pop ( the latter with cliched string rearrangements tacked on)”
I guess that’s a bit of a mouthful.

[kernelbogey]

I was thinking how few Proms trails I’d heard this year compared with last. But I was out for two days last week . So far today only heard one (plus many talkups)
Shouldnt it be retagged “the Worlds Greatest Classical music festival with some light music , Broadway , jazz and pop ( the latter with cliched string rearrangements tacked on)”
I guess that’s a bit of a mouthful.

Or even The World's Greatest Music Festival...?

[Serial_Apologist]

Or even The World's Greatest Music Festival...?

I was thinking Glastonbury, but that can't be right as they sometimes do classical music.

[edashtav]

I was thinking Glastonbury, but that can't be right as they sometimes do classical music.

By Bucks-born Rutland Boughton?

[teamsaint]

A regular and tiresome interruption to most programmes on Radio 3. It's now got to the point where I turn off and then decide to retune to Classic FM, for my sins.

If you want core repertoire, slightly obscure baroque and classical, advert and news free, try the excellent online KUSC ( University of Southern California).
They do the odd fundraising thing, but basically it is simple presentation and music, with some complete works, esp during their nightime.

Does the job for certain kinds of ( easy) listening.

[Serial_Apologist]

By Bucks-born Rutland Boughton?

No doubton!

[edashtav]

No doubton!

[Paulie55]

Looks like the better option. After all, how many really classical stations do we have in the UK?

If you want core repertoire, slightly obscure baroque and classical, advert and news free, try the excellent online KUSC ( University of Southern California).
They do the odd fundraising thing, but basically it is simple presentation and music, with some complete works, esp during their nightime.

Does the job for certain kinds of ( easy) listening.

[smittims]

There were two trailers for the Proms on Thursday afternoon within a few minutes of one another (either side of a short instrumental piece) as if anyone listening to Radio 3 could possibly not have heard of them. It really is getting to the stage when it's an insult to the intelligence.