Annoying R3 Trailers

[JasonPalmer]

... why do you 'need' all these reminders - which clearly irritate everyone else?

Shall we club together and buy you a subscription to the Radio Times so that (a) you won't need these reminders and (b) you won't need to remind us either??

i use the online schedule,far more information than radio times...trails are cool, bring it on i say

[vinteuil]

Trails for afternoon concert reminded me to listen to the last hour today,

... why do you 'need' all these reminders - which clearly irritate everyone else?

Shall we club together and buy you a subscription to the Radio Times so that (a) you won't need these reminders and (b) you won't need to remind us either??

[JasonPalmer]

Trails for afternoon concert reminded me to listen to the last hour today,

[smittims]

Shakespeare has been a vital part of my life for over fifty years, but I rarely enjoy a performance very much. I prefer to read the play and imagine my ideal staging. I suppose I'd have difficulty denying the charge of 'purist'. I can't tolerate cuts in the text.

That said I do love the Olivier Hamlet film which of course is very cut. I also enjoy a Russian version with music by Shostakovitch. I was amused when someone saw me watching it, and knowing I have no Russian ( apart from 'Da' and 'Niet')and there were no subtitles, asked 'How can you understand it?' It hadn't occurred to me; it was Hamlet! I had the original running through my mind line by line as I watched.

[french frank]

I’m not a big fan or rewrites of the English classics but …
Isn’t Hamlet itself the ultimate rewrite? - possibly of an earlier Ur-Hamlet by Kyd or more likely Shakespeare himself ? Not to mention the many literary sources Shakespeare drew on. There’s no settled text - the published editions are a mix of the First Folio and a couple of The Quartos if I remember aright . Even now he that plays the Hamlet often struggle to remember the lines - most notably Albert Finney. When you’re reading a critical edition there are so many variants you often start to ask yourself what play am I reading?

All true. But 'classics' from the medieval time onwards (and before in fact) have variant readings. A reimagining of the story, usually transposed into modern times, is barely "Shakespeare". About 20 years ago, Radio 3 went through an exceptionally good period for classics of world theatre, most done 'traditionally'; so I could take the odd Uncle Varick - Uncle Vanya transferred to rural Scotland. But when the BBC broadcasts so little 'legitimate theatre' compared with television and written-for-radio drama, it's a shame when R3 feels the necessity to put its own stamp on any classic play it does air.

I have about 10 Shakespeare plays recorded (but not Hamlet), plus Spanish, French, Italian, German, Polish, Indian, Belgian symbolist, Austrian classics - the list goes on. Broadcasts on that scale I imagine are now unaffordable, but more ingenuity could be used in the choice and adaptation e.g. there was an excellent 'dramatisation' of Venus and Adonis (few characters) and quite short. I suppose the cost-cutting extends to people who care about theatre.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I happened to be fiddling with my “Hifi” prior to playing an off air minidisc of, as it happens, Drama on 3 and it was on then. I heard the name Hamlet mentioned which puzzled me enough to check the blurb. Then I returned to my recording of Schnitzler’s Dr Bernhardi.

It may have been excellent but on the whole I’m not keen on R3’s mania for rewriting the classics so was prejudiced.

I’m not a big fan or rewrites of the English classics but …
Isn’t Hamlet itself the ultimate rewrite? - possibly of an earlier Ur-Hamlet by Kyd or more likely Shakespeare himself ? Not to mention the many literary sources Shakespeare drew on. There’s no settled text - the published editions are a mix of the First Folio and a couple of The Quartos if I remember aright . Even now he that plays the Hamlet often struggle to remember the lines - most notably Albert Finney. When you’re reading a critical edition there are so many variants you often start to ask yourself what play am I reading?

[oddoneout]

I thought the trail for Hamlet Noir sufficiently intriguing to want to hear the broadcast - but forgot (forgetting a lot these days). I thought the trailer well done, and hearing it this morning for the second time usefully reminded me of my intention; and having read the full blurb on the R3 page, even more so. Perhaps it will become annoying on third or fourth hearing....

Anybody heard the drama itself?

That's one of my major gripes - the first couple of times are OK, but constant repetition of an irritation, particularly given the thoughtless placement of the adverts in relation to the music they collide with, makes it even more of an irritation and intrusion. If someone's already decided to listen then constant reminders become nagging, which is never a constructive exercise in my opinion.
That you have now been alerted to something you wish to hear and might otherwise have missed is good, and "they" will take it as justification for the exercise, but I would question whether the irritation factor for a great many people in relation to the number of listeners possibly garnered is equitable, or a good strategy. I for one miss chunks of daytime broadcast output due to not cancelling the mute button after such intrusions. There have been times, for instance when the grunting shouting blitz campaign was running(summer sport) when I just didn't feel inclined to even start listening, so the radio stays off for the benefit of my blood pressure and general mood.

[french frank]

Anybody heard the drama itself?

I happened to be fiddling with my “Hifi” prior to playing an off air minidisc of, as it happens, Drama on 3 and it was on then. I heard the name Hamlet mentioned which puzzled me enough to check the blurb. Then I returned to my recording of Schnitzler’s Dr Bernhardi.

It may have been excellent but on the whole I’m not keen on R3’s mania for rewriting the classics so was prejudiced.

[kernelbogey]

I thought the trail for Hamlet Noir sufficiently intriguing to want to hear the broadcast - but forgot (forgetting a lot these days). I thought the trailer well done, and hearing it this morning for the second time usefully reminded me of my intention; and having read the full blurb on the R3 page, even more so. Perhaps it will become annoying on third or fourth hearing....

Anybody heard the drama itself?

[JasonPalmer]

Another trailer for afternoon concert on sunday breakfast today and a mention of jazz record requests.

[JasonPalmer]

In tune just played a lovely trail for afternoon concert.

[smittims]

I remember seeing Rosemary Squires on TV in the '60s, in variety shows. Many comedy programmes had a 'musical interlude' where a lady in a long tight dress known in those days as an 'evening gown' crooned a slow love song, sometimes with two or three young men in black tie prancing round her . Older viewers will recall Joan Regan and Alma Cogan in such apppearances. I didn't now R-Sq. had done adverts as well.

[Serial_Apologist]

... but cf a nice obituary in The Times last week for Rosemary Squires [1928-2023], queen of the jingles, whose wholesome singing of -
“Now hands that do dishes can feel as soft as your face with mild green Fairy Liquid”, recorded in 1960 ,was still being played forty years later...

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A "revised" version of which is currently showing, this time featuring an oddly expressionless father washing those judicious dishes with his equally oddly expressionless small son commenting in that same cutesome way.

[JasonPalmer]

I remember on the old bbc message boards once posting that i had seen an advert for classic fm on the side of a london bus but never seen an advert for radio 3. I like to think that seed of an observation resulted in trails on bbc tv and radio,

yes, its all my fault

oh dearie me

[eighthobstruction]

... but cf a nice obituary in The Times last week for Rosemary Squires [1928-2023], queen of the jingles, whose wholesome singing of -
“Now hands that do dishes can feel as soft as your face with mild green Fairy Liquid”, recorded in 1960 ,was still being played forty years later...

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Aaah " the matching is unique at A G Meake"..... Ed: which I am amazed still have an outlet in Cardiff....but not a utube clip....https://stdavidscardiff.com/shops/g-meek