Annoying R3 Trailers

[french frank]

I’m not a big fan or rewrites of the English classics but …
Isn’t Hamlet itself the ultimate rewrite? - possibly of an earlier Ur-Hamlet by Kyd or more likely Shakespeare himself ? Not to mention the many literary sources Shakespeare drew on. There’s no settled text - the published editions are a mix of the First Folio and a couple of The Quartos if I remember aright . Even now he that plays the Hamlet often struggle to remember the lines - most notably Albert Finney. When you’re reading a critical edition there are so many variants you often start to ask yourself what play am I reading?

All true. But 'classics' from the medieval time onwards (and before in fact) have variant readings. A reimagining of the story, usually transposed into modern times, is barely "Shakespeare". About 20 years ago, Radio 3 went through an exceptionally good period for classics of world theatre, most done 'traditionally'; so I could take the odd Uncle Varick - Uncle Vanya transferred to rural Scotland. But when the BBC broadcasts so little 'legitimate theatre' compared with television and written-for-radio drama, it's a shame when R3 feels the necessity to put its own stamp on any classic play it does air.

I have about 10 Shakespeare plays recorded (but not Hamlet), plus Spanish, French, Italian, German, Polish, Indian, Belgian symbolist, Austrian classics - the list goes on. Broadcasts on that scale I imagine are now unaffordable, but more ingenuity could be used in the choice and adaptation e.g. there was an excellent 'dramatisation' of Venus and Adonis (few characters) and quite short. I suppose the cost-cutting extends to people who care about theatre.

[smittims]

Shakespeare has been a vital part of my life for over fifty years, but I rarely enjoy a performance very much. I prefer to read the play and imagine my ideal staging. I suppose I'd have difficulty denying the charge of 'purist'. I can't tolerate cuts in the text.

That said I do love the Olivier Hamlet film which of course is very cut. I also enjoy a Russian version with music by Shostakovitch. I was amused when someone saw me watching it, and knowing I have no Russian ( apart from 'Da' and 'Niet')and there were no subtitles, asked 'How can you understand it?' It hadn't occurred to me; it was Hamlet! I had the original running through my mind line by line as I watched.

[JasonPalmer]

Trails for afternoon concert reminded me to listen to the last hour today,

[vinteuil]

Trails for afternoon concert reminded me to listen to the last hour today,

... why do you 'need' all these reminders - which clearly irritate everyone else?

Shall we club together and buy you a subscription to the Radio Times so that (a) you won't need these reminders and (b) you won't need to remind us either??

[JasonPalmer]

... why do you 'need' all these reminders - which clearly irritate everyone else?

Shall we club together and buy you a subscription to the Radio Times so that (a) you won't need these reminders and (b) you won't need to remind us either??

i use the online schedule,far more information than radio times...trails are cool, bring it on i say

[vinteuil]

.trails are cool, bring it on i say

... what does that even mean?

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[JasonPalmer]

Afternoon concert just promoted this evenings in tune, marvellous.

[vinteuil]

Afternoon concert just promoted this evenings in tune, marvellous.

... curious, I had not really expected to encounter trolls among the civilized inhabitants of radio three land. I learn...

[french frank]

Afternoon concert just promoted this evenings in tune, marvellous.

Jason

Your constant trails for R3 trails on the 'Annoying R3 trails' thread are getting as annoying as people find the R3 trails themselves. It's not clear to me whether your signature: "Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3..." means you are annoying to yourself or whether you are trying to annoy others. Neither is recommended.

[AuntDaisy]

Thank you, french frank & vinteuil.

[Ein Heldenleben]

Jason

Your constant trails for R3 trails on the 'Annoying R3 trails' thread are getting as annoying as people find the R3 trails themselves. It's not clear to me whether your signature: "Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3..." means you are annoying to yourself or whether you are trying to annoy others. Neither is recommended.

Perhaps annoyingly I find them rather amusing. It’s a sort of meta-trailing - mentioning a trail that has already gone out especially the In Tune trail which is never the same twice . He’s not the only one guilty of redundant repetition.
The Night tracks trail remains a major irritant,

[eighthobstruction]

Jason

Your constant trails for R3 trails on the 'Annoying R3 trails' thread are getting as annoying as people find the R3 trails themselves. It's not clear to me whether your signature: "Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3..." means you are annoying to yourself or whether you are trying to annoy others. Neither is recommended.

Yep....thank you ff and vint's.........

[oddoneout]

In recent days there have been more instances of presenters doing a bit of live promo activity - informal brief mention of one or two programmes coming up later in the day or possibly the following day(as used to happen many moons ago) - no music/noises off and not repetitive. I'm quite happy with that approach as it isn't disruptive but my suspicious mind is wondering why it is happening. If it reduced the repetitive adverts that would be a win, but I think it might be in addition, so a further erosion of time for content - as a way of catching those of us who disengage from the prepared ones?

[french frank]

I'm quite happy with that approach as it isn't disruptive but my suspicious mind is wondering why it is happening. If it reduced the repetitive adverts that would be a win, but I think it might be in addition, so a further erosion of time for content - as a way of catching those of us who disengage from the prepared ones?

It might be further cost-cutting - built trails cost money - but not if they are an addition.

[kernelbogey]

In recent days there have been more instances of presenters doing a bit of live promo activity - informal brief mention of one or two programmes coming up later in the day....

I too have noticed this: just from listening to Sunday Breakfast - with my favourite and soon-to-be-let-go-from-it presenter Martin Handley - these 'talkings up' of coming broadcasts seem to be becoming more frequent. Fair enough for Martin to mention Wigmore Hall recitals et al that he has himself presented. But I can't help thinking that an ukase has come from on high for producers to scour the upcoming schedule and shoehorn in pieces of music whose link can offer the opportunity of a talking-up. ('And talking of Mozart, on Radio 3 on Wednesday afternoon....' etc.)