Annoying R3 Trailers

[Ein Heldenleben]

I wasn't suggesting they cost much but they are an extra cost, and in the context in which trails are being discussed here it seemed as if SJ was speaking only of built trails (which, if the situation is the same as a few years ago have a designated member of R3 staff spending time on them) rather than presenter announcements. Both are annoyingly disruptive.

It was at the point when I started wondering about what irrelevance the presenter would be telling me about when the music finished that I gave up on Morning on 3. I never actually graduated to Breakfast so I'm obviously even more sensitive to such annoyances than others!

At the risk of being a pedant and a know it all in fact trails SAVE money. A twenty second put out sixty times would save potentially twenty minutes of needle time. And if radio is like TV you don’t pay copyright for material extracted from programmes that have been recently or are about to be transmitted. But there does have to be an associated programme.

[french frank]

To be honest FF built radio trails cost very little

I wasn't suggesting they cost much but they are an extra cost, and in the context in which trails are being discussed here it seemed as if SJ was speaking only of built trails (which, if the situation is the same as a few years ago have a designated member of R3 staff spending time on them) rather than presenter announcements. Both are annoyingly disruptive.

It was at the point when I started wondering about what irrelevance the presenter would be telling me about when the music finished that I gave up on Morning on 3. I never actually graduated to Breakfast so I'm obviously even more sensitive to such annoyances than others!

[Ein Heldenleben]

So why not point out to him that the non-'built trails' are equally disruptive and annoying? Built trails cost money: maybe R3 doesn't warrant money being spent on small audiences so they have trails that cost nothing because presenters are working anyway?

To be honest FF built radio trails cost very little - voice recorded at the end of a studio session and probably mixed very quickly on whatever desktop audio gear it is they use these. days. You wouldn’t believe how quickly even a TV trail can be thrown together. The ability to access material internally across the entire BBC archive and live system is a wonder to behold.

[french frank]

If by trail he means recorded trail he is probably right .

So why not point out to him that the non-'built trails' are equally disruptive and annoying? Built trails cost money: maybe R3 doesn't warrant money being spent on small audiences so they have trails that cost nothing because presenters are working anyway?

[Ein Heldenleben]

That's a politician's trick as far as I'm concerned. There is patently more than one irrelevant and intrusive interruption each hour, so dismissing the whole issue/irritation by saying there is only one trail doesn't answer the complaint even if it's technically true.

If by trail he means recorded trail he is probably right . There’s only been one since 12.00 and it’s now 13.39 with the next junction in 20 minutes. A typical BBC One junction would have a minimum of four trails - perhaps more in peak time. Believe me R3 listeners are getting off lightly.

[french frank]

Sam Jackson's statement on Feedback was: "Where we are at Radio 3 at the moment is that typically we will not play any more than one trail in any given hour." I suppose it all hangs on what he meant by "typically" ...

'Averagely'? How many trails are there during TTN for example? That must lower the average. I'm just studying some comparative figures between CFM and R3, kindly supplied by 'friends' a few years ago. I don't think R3's overall pattern differs much from CFM's - or indeed any other radio station's - to allow him to make changes to bring R3 'in line' e.g. radio listening is low in the evenings because when people are at home they watch television instead. His comments seem to me to suggest no broad knowledge or experience of radio outside Classic FM.

[oddoneout]

Sam Jackson's statement on Feedback was:



I suppose it all hangs on what he meant by "typically" ...

That's a politician's trick as far as I'm concerned. There is patently more than one irrelevant and intrusive interruption each hour, so dismissing the whole issue/irritation by saying there is only one trail doesn't answer the complaint even if it's technically true.

[Andrew Slater]

Sam Jackson claimed in the Feedback interview that we won't get more than one trailer in any one hour. I've been counting this morning, they occur every half-hour, more or less on the quarter and three quarter.....and this doesn't include any mention of forthcoming events by the T Service.

I think he said we wouldn't get the same trailer more than once in any hour. Whatever he said or meant, they've become a major irritant.

Sam Jackson's statement on Feedback was:

Where we are at Radio 3 at the moment is that typically we will not play any more than one trail in any given hour.

I suppose it all hangs on what he meant by "typically" ...

[Roger Webb]

I think he said we wouldn't get the same trailer more than once in any hour. Whatever he said or meant, they've become a major irritant.

Yes, being bitten by a different mosquito every half an hour is just as irritating as by the same one!

[LMcD]

Sam Jackson claimed in the Feedback interview that we won't get more than one trailer in any one hour. I've been counting this morning, they occur every half-hour, more or less on the quarter and three quarter.....and this doesn't include any mention of forthcoming events by the T Service.

I think he said we wouldn't get the same trailer more than once in any hour. Whatever he said or meant, they've become a major irritant.

[Roger Webb]

Oh my goodness!

Please. Enough already! [Trailers, that is].

Sam Jackson claimed in the Feedback interview that we won't get more than one trailer in any one hour. I've been counting this morning, they occur every half-hour, more or less on the quarter and three quarter.....and this doesn't include any mention of forthcoming events by the T Service.

[pastoralguy]

Oh my goodness! I’m on holiday just now and have had a very enjoyable couple of days driving around the Lake District before driving to London on Sunday morning. Radio3 has been my constant companion but those damn trailers. The one from Jools Holand about how he loves classical music and his amazement that one pianist can play the same work and make it sound so different from another pianist is really starting to grate!

Please. Enough already!

[kernelbogey]

Just a trop in the overflowing oceans of tropes.

[Serial_Apologist]

Much as I admire Mozart's Quintet for Piano and Wind, I do think Ms Alker's choice of adjective when trailing it - ' towering' - might be just a little de trop.

Just a trop in the overflowing oceans of tropes.

[LMcD]

There was a truly excruciating interruption to 'Classical Live' at about 3.45 pm yesterday (1545 BST: a time when I've noticed it goes a bit wacky). Some women shouting about a podcast. I couldn't understand a word of it. So much for 'the home of classical music'.

Much as I admire Mozart's Quintet for Piano and Wind, I do think Ms Alker's choice of adjective when trailing it - ' towering' - might be just a little de trop.