Annoying R3 Trailers

[Serial_Apologist]

I find all the mash-ups repellent - and so disrespectful to the music/composers/performers.

It's very much in line with the increasing practice by BBC TV to trail current programmes, particularly drama series, by bombarding the viewer with seconds of as many brief clips, meaninglessly de-contextualised for maximum ***DRAMATIC*** impact as can be crammed into a tiny slot between programmes. The concerto clips are the Radio 3 equivalent of seeing a car explosion, or someone being shot.

[Frances_iom]

you ain't the intended audience - the snippets are the well known bits probably used a bleeding chunks on CFm - to link to the Feedback thread the real question is whether linear Radio is dead except for the housebound retired

[kernelbogey]

you ain't the intended audience....

True. So, as Oddie has implied, above, why not put this endlessly on Radios 2 & 4 where the intended audience is?!

[french frank]

True. So, as Oddie has implied, above, why not put this endlessly on Radios 2 & 4 where the intended audience is?!

Don't forget the answer we were once given here from R3. If the trails are annoying people, they're doing their job: they're being noticed.

[Ein Heldenleben]

I think the piano concerto trail is quite well put together to be honest . Even makes a modicum of tonal sense A min , C minor , C major and dunno ..

[Nick Armstrong]

A telling ambiguity in a current In Tune trailer that intruded into MH’s Sunday breakfast: In Tune is apparently the perfect way to “wind up your day”…

The Rafferty/Derham duo certainly wind me up every time

[Frances_iom]

the mute button is always ready and the minute can be used to decide if you really want to continue listening - all too often I decide that I've had enough - as to In Tune I'll leave that for those that need it for domestic purposes - both presenters drive me away - KD even more so that Rafferty..

[DracoM]

Well. KD and S.Rafferty have also driven me away. I want to hear the MUSICIANS, and NOT feeble 'wit' and self-inflating presenters. Please,, please, please shut them up or sack them.

[Nick Armstrong]

the mute button is always ready

Or as I always listen on the iPad after the event, the ‘jump forward 20 seconds’ button… Alas on this occasion I was listening in the shower and general moisture forced me to hear the trailer (yes, a serious tactical blunder )

[smittims]

I resent especially trailers for non-Radio3 programmes, such as the Rugby world cup, and TV dramas. I do not want to be shouted at when listening to Radio 3. As for Katie Derham, more annoying for me than her manner is her ignorance of classical music. I've heard a succession of howlers from her over the years, all delivered with that schoolmarmy 'I know best' voice. I'm sure the BBC could find well-informed music graduates with pleasant voices who'd be glad to do the job for much less than we're paying her.

[oddoneout]

I resent especially trailers for non-Radio3 programmes, such as the Rugby world cup, and TV dramas. I do not want to be shouted at when listening to Radio 3. As for Katie Derham, more annoying for me than her manner is her ignorance of classical music. I've heard a succession of howlers from her over the years, all delivered with that schoolmarmy 'I know best' voice. I'm sure the BBC could find well-informed music graduates with pleasant voices who'd be glad to do the job for much less than we're paying her.

The intrusive sports trailers have been a nasty feature this year. Even if I were interested in sport would I really welcome repeated clips of crowd cheering, player grunting, commentator shouting, interrupting the pieces of music I want to hear. As it is I'm not even interested in sport so this intrusion simply increases my antipathy, which is unfair I acknowledge, as it's not the sport industry's decision to inflict aversion therapy on R3 listeners. As has often been said - it's not as though it's even stevens - I think I can categorically state that sports broadcasts don't have Stockhausen clips inserted several times during their airtime. Why not?

[smittims]

Exactly, and this is the nub of the matter. We've often mentioned here the fallacy of 'no barriers' in the content of Radio3, where other stations (Radio One , for instance) certainly have very firm barriers, and quite rightly too. I wouldn't expect a complete 'Wozzeck' on Radio Two , or Hugo Wolf Lieder on Radio Five. And excited shouting commentators are all very well in context , for an enthusiast listening to the climax of a sport event. Jammed into 'Afternoon Concert' without warning, after a Biber sonata, they're most unwelcome.

[Ein Heldenleben]

The intrusive sports trailers have been a nasty feature this year. Even if I were interested in sport would I really welcome repeated clips of crowd cheering, player grunting, commentator shouting, interrupting the pieces of music I want to hear. As it is I'm not even interested in sport so this intrusion simply increases my antipathy, which is unfair I acknowledge, as it's not the sport industry's decision to inflict aversion therapy on R3 listeners. As has often been said - it's not as though it's even stevens - I think I can categorically state that sports broadcasts don't have Stockhausen clips inserted several times during their airtime. Why not?

Recently heard during sports broadcasts - a Rodgers and Hammerstein hit, An African American Spiritual , A Parry arrangement of a Blake Poem, Max Boyce , A cod Scots folk tune , an Irish folk tune (actually I think it’s a 20th century composition) , challenging avant garde performances of national songs where the chorus at different times enter late and either sharp or flat , and several ad hoc vocalisations which could well be in the manner of Stockhausen.

[Serial_Apologist]

Recently heard during sports broadcasts - a Rodgers and Hammerstein hit, An African American Spiritual , A Parry arrangement of a Blake Poem, Max Boyce , A cod Scots folk tune , an Irish folk tune (actually I think it’s a 20th century composition) , challenging avant garde performances of national songs where the chorus at different times enter late and either sharp or flat , and several ad hoc vocalisations which could well be in the manner of Stockhausen.

And I take it, all those were promoters for music programmes on non-sports programmes?

[Ein Heldenleben]

And I take it, all those were promoters for music programmes on non-sports programmes?

No but some of them are just as irritating. The range of songs at sporting events has narrowed perceptibly in the last fifty years for some reason. So for example at Welsh Rugby Internationals you never hear Sospan Fach or Cwm Rhonda any more. All ever hear is Hymns and Arias and Delilah . Why is that ? I wonder if there’s a PhD thesis in it ?