Annoying R3 Trailers

[Old Grumpy]

Heartily sick of all R3 trails, but especially KD's "can you beat Beethoven" trail.


OG

[ardcarp]

TV trails are much worse though. If you look at a typical trail e.g. for BBC1's Win the Wilderness - Alaska [total ****] the shot changes about once each second. According to a friend of mine (retired consultant) this rate of change wold have been completely incomprehensible 50 years ago. So something has happened to our brains that can focus and get some meaning from multiple one-second screen shots. Not surprising many youngsters have a short attention span. Mind you, it was also the case that in the late 19th century when 'moving pictures' were first seen, people could not understand a shot of just head-and-shoulders. It was as if there wasn't a real person there unless the whole body was shown moving (And this despite a long history of head and shoulders busts and portraiture.) So change happens.

R3 trails? Annoying yes, but not yet mind-blowing.....yet.

[Serial_Apologist]

TV trails are much worse though. If you look at a typical trail e.g. for BBC1's Win the Wilderness - Alaska [total ****] the shot changes about once each second. According to a friend of mine (retired consultant) this rate of change wold have been completely incomprehensible 50 years ago. So something has happened to our brains that can focus and get some meaning from multiple one-second screen shots. Not surprising many youngsters have a short attention span. Mind you, it was also the case that in the late 19th century when 'moving pictures' were first seen, people could not understand a shot of just head-and-shoulders. It was as if there wasn't a real person there unless the whole body was shown moving (And this despite a long history of head and shoulders busts and portraiture.) So change happens.

R3 trails? Annoying yes, but not yet mind-blowing.....yet.

Not in my case!!!

[Kernow Malc]

I turned the breakfast show on this morning; the first things I heard were the twitter address and the start of a trailer - needless to say the radio went straight off again. I've pretty well reached the point where the station will not be switched on at all.....

[Frances_iom]

Actually I now listen less and less to R3, not only do we get 2mins minimum of trails per hour (obviously way to go to match the USA 10-12mins) with at least 1 after every program often squeezed in such that the dying chords of one piece are immediately succeeded by a jarring advert but there are now 'product placements' in many programmes and even in News broadcasts where such placements are given a billing way beyond their importance - the Tories are correct the BBC can survive on adverts as it proves.

[Pianorak]

BBC Sounds, podcast, radio . . . As soon as I hear that I just switch off. Talk about overkill!

[DracoM]

Ditto. Wreckage of continuity - like applause between movements.

[Serial_Apologist]

Actually I now listen less and less to R3, not only do we get 2mins minimum of trails per hour (obviously way to go to match the USA 10-12mins) with at least 1 after every program often squeezed in such that the dying chords of one piece are immediately succeeded by a jarring advert but there are now 'product placements' in many programmes and even in News broadcasts where such placements are given a billing way beyond their importance - the Tories are correct the BBC can survive on adverts as it proves.

On today's lunchtime BBC local TV news, they even had an item championing a couple of young guys making thousands of £££s by importing top price trainers from China and selling them on on the street. They were shown bragging about the amounts they were making, driving expensive motors, and saying they intended to continue as long as they were making money. I mean, there are often news items publicising art exhibitions or a new young singer making a name for herself, but this activity, the legality of which seemed highly questionable, went reported with no criticism or questioning at all by the reporter. I couldn't believe what I was seeing; what the hell is going on?.

[Frances_iom]

Ditto. Wreckage of continuity - like applause between movements.

don't worry Bryn will soon be along to explain it is just a resurrected 18th C custom - actually I suspect the audience has a number of first time attendees at a concert, which is in itself a GOOD thing, but possibly the floor manager might have a few additional words of welcome as well as reminding them to switch their phones back on as they leave at the end of the concert.

[Bryn]

don't worry Bryn will soon be along to explain it is just a resurrected 18th C custom - actually I suspect the audience has a number of first time attendees at a concert, which is in itself a GOOD thing, but possibly the floor manager might have a few additional words of welcome as well as reminding them to switch their phones back on as they leave at the end of the concert.

I find that if I am concentrating on the performance of the music, I do not feel a need to concentrate similarly on the approbation demonstrated between movements. Indeed, I find it far less distracting than the necessary retuning sometimes called for before proceeding to the next movement. Applause can even act to ameliorate the disruption engendered by such retuning.

[LMcD]

On today's lunchtime BBC local TV news, they even had an item championing a couple of young guys making thousands of £££s by importing top price trainers from China and selling them on on the street. They were shown bragging about the amounts they were making, driving expensive motors, and saying they intended to continue as long as they were making money. I mean, there are often news items publicising art exhibitions or a new young singer making a name for herself, but this activity, the legality of which seemed highly questionable, went reported with no criticism or questioning at all by the reporter. I couldn't believe what I was seeing; what the hell is going on?.

On Monday night, BBC 'Look East' chose as its main story, in the 7 or so minutes air-time at its disposal, the recollections of people who were briefly acquainted in their childhood with a recently deceased reality show presenter. What is 'going on' to an increasing extent is the BBC's increasingly desperate attempts to retain the few young(er) viewers it has managed to hold on to, and attract new ones. Hence, for example, the shortening of the 10.00 p.m. news on BBC1, which last night featured as a main story 'The Brits, in the hope that young(er) viewers will be attracted to programmes in the 'yoof strand'.

[Old Grumpy]

On Monday night, BBC 'Look East' chose as its main story, in the 7 or so minutes air-time at its disposal, the recollections of people who were briefly acquainted in their childhood with a recently deceased reality show presenter. What is 'going on' to an increasing extent is the BBC's increasingly desperate attempts to retain the few young(er) viewers it has managed to hold on to, and attract new ones. Hence, for example, the shortening of the 10.00 p.m. news on BBC1, which last night featured as a main story 'The Brits, in the hope that young(er) viewers will be attracted to programmes in the 'yoof strand'.

Is there an Essex connection or somefin?

Sorry don't participate in "reality" (or TV much)!

OG

[LMcD]

Is there an Essex connection or somefin?

Sorry don't participate in "reality" (or TV much)!

OG

The little that I do know about 'reality' TV shows has come my way only because they, and their presenters, have come to be regarded as major stories and so find their way into news bulletins.

[Beresford]

If R3 becomes a subscription channel, I hope they will introduce, for a small additional sum, an automute that silences trails and any other adverts.

Technically Sky could do that now, but don't, because the advertisers call the shots.

[cloughie]

If R3 becomes a subscription channel, I hope they will introduce, for a small additional sum, an automute that silences trails and any other adverts.

Technically Sky could do that now, but don't, because the advertisers call the shots.

Well they can hardly bite off the hand that passes them the readies!