Don't often catch Breakfast or Essential Classics now I'm retired, but I was out early today to take the car in for MOT. Delightful to hear the dulcet tones of Kate Molleson on Breakfast, but EC was certainly trial by trail!
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The Beeb didn’t allow that - you weren’t allowed to sell them or take them home. One option was recycling - a ridiculous waste. Another option was to take them to a charity shop and believe it or not you had to produce a receipt. When I did so I the request for a receipt completely confused a very unfriendly volunteer at the British Heart Foundation who obviously thought I was perpetrating a particularly complex tax fraud. So I took them to Oxfam.Originally posted by french frank View Post
All the books we used to get were inevitably drivel.
More importantly during a clearout I discovered that the local Cancer Research shop are desperate for books and will take any no matter what. Useful tip to aid a worthwhile charity if it’s also the case nationally. (I don’t live in a very bookish city)Comment
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This is an annoying trail for the Amnesty bookshops. Please bring in your books in any state as if they're not saleable we send them for recycling and we still get money for them by the tonne (ton, cwt &c).Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostIt isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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Once we start running ads / plugs on this strand you realise trails are a contagious disease. I guess I started it.Originally posted by french frank View Post
Our local second bookshop won’t take any more books - he doesn’t even do house clearances where there’s a chance you might turn up a first edition.Comment
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The listening service ended by saying all the previous episodes are on bbc sounds, a trail.Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...Comment
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So What....reading you, making a case for trails is hastily becoming more annoying than R£3 trails....Originally posted by JasonPalmer View Postbong chingComment
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....well he has succeeded
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I think there is something quite important here . Saying that a programme is on BBC Sounds would only come as a surprise to a newly arrived Martian quite unaware that such a service existed. This Sounds promo / talkup has become the Radio equivalent of a US teenager saying “like” every other word.Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
Whereas a trail for an untransmitted programme may alert you to something of interest. For example this week’s Opera On 3 La Forza del Destino was trailed only briefly - I heard one this Sat am. And listened to the opera . Why not just look at a guide ? Well the newspaper guides are too sketchy , the Radio TImes web page is the worst designed and least user friendly * I’ve come across. Ditto the schedule pages on Sounds which are only marginally better.
* an assertion confirmed to me by a sub who worked on it incidentally.Comment
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The trouble with R3 and other BBC trails is that they tell you more about the trail than the programme trailed. And that goes for other channels too, btw, to which the BBC has either descended or ascended. I'm thinking of those ubiquitous fast shuffles through unbroken sequences of mini-clips from programmes which are either documentaries, dramas or sport, none of them titled, presumably trumpeting HOW EXCITING the network's fare is or is to be.Originally posted by Ein Heldenleben View PostComment
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Certainly true of many of the numerous Freeview/Freesat channels now available...Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
... I'm already sick of the ITVx trails!
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I don't watch very much TV now, but in recent years I increasingly found myself thinking that there was no point seeing the heavily promoted programmes as I'd already seen all the best bits in the advertising clips...
There is a major difference between the TV and radio adverts - the timing(placement) - and as far as I'm concerned it's a very significant difference. On TV they come at known points, between the programmes on BBC and in the advert slots on commercial channels. The R3 ones are inserted at random points, with no reference to the music they grate/crash against. The use of the mute button also differs - with TV there's still the visual clue as to when to unmute, with radio it's a case of guessing, so the annoyance may still be in action or the next piece of music has already started. Tiresome for the morning schedules but unforgivable in my opinion for something that still bills itself as "Afternoon Concert".Comment
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I agree. It's especially annoying when there is no warning. They already play a piece of music with no announcement, so one cannot always tell that it's the start of an advert. I suspect this is deliberate. I'm sure advertisers would prefer (if they were allowed ) to insert their adverts into the middle of a film without a pause. Some adverts are made cleverly to look like the surrounding programme, as I've noticed when editing them out of a recorded programme .Comment
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Noticed two trails for planet earth III on tv lastnight, i presume they see a boom in the stats of people watching the program on iplayer after the adverts. I presume this is why three push the sounds app too, i prefer to listen via the website if i have missed something. I heard several trails for african classical music but never listened to the program. All those graphs showing listeners / watchers of tv increase after a trail must make it an easy sell in bbc strategy meetings,Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...Comment
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