are you a pleb ?

[vinteuil]

I am puzzled by mangerton's 'nyaff'

... help is at hand -

http://caledonianmercury.com/2010/08/02/useful-scots-word-nyaff/009661

[mangerton]

... ahem - 'οἱ , not οí ...

[retires swiftly to pedants' corner... ]

I was directly quoting the great Slok, but I bow to superior knowledge. Now edited. (Hangs head in shame. )

Anna, "nyaff" is, as they say, "etymology dubious." No idea where the word came from. It's one of those Scots words like "dreich" which is just self explanatory, almost in a sense onomatopoeic. Used of the weather - grey, wet, misty, depressing.

And with pagliaccis they mean clowns, rather than violinists.

EDIT: I see I've been forestalled by vinteuil. Some great words in that article - shilpit, and bauchle. I'm reminded of the erstwhile Glasgow tram destination:

Auchenshuggle (scroll down a bit to see it)

[Paul Sherratt]

For me Andrew Mitchell and indeed many of his tory chums are " more to be pitied than scolded* "
The socialising disadvantages of their upbringing must be extremely difficult to overcome.

*Nod to The Stanley Brothers.

[eighthobstruction]

Yes Paul....but I can hardly see them doing a cover of, Do they Owe us a Living (Corz they do) : Crass....

[scottycelt]

I was directly quoting the great Slok, but I bow to superior knowledge. Now edited. (Hangs head in shame. )

Anna, "nyaff" is, as they say, "etymology dubious." No idea where the word came from. It's one of those Scots words like "dreich" which is just self explanatory, almost in a sense onomatopoeic. Used of the weather - grey, wet, misty, depressing.

And with pagliaccis they mean clowns, rather than violinists.

EDIT: I see I've been forestalled by vinteuil. Some great words in that article - shilpit, and bauchle. I'm reminded of the erstwhile Glasgow tram destination:

Auchenshuggle (scroll down a bit to see it)

Ah wiz a bit 'pit oot' by that No 64 bus gaun tae Auchenshuggle, mangerton.

As a boy, I remember often jumping on a No 9 tram towards the famous destination en route to Celtic Park. Here's the proof though this tram is obviously not heading to Dalmuir West but east towards Bridgeton Cross where it appears to be terminating. I recognise the old railway bridge behind the tram which was just past Glasgow Cross, and even in Glasgow they prefer to drive on the left.

We used to think those Coronation trams were very posh with leather seats and even the driver was blessed with one, unlike the older vehicles in which they had to stand.

Glasgow was never quite the same after its huge fleet of trams disappeared ... as for getting around relatively easily, it was to that city what the Tube is to London.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/634361

[mangerton]

Ah wiz a bit 'pit oot' by that No 64 bus gaun tae Auchenshuggle, mangerton.

As a boy, I remember often jumping on a No 9 tram towards the famous destination en route to Celtic Park. Here's the proof though this tram is obviously not heading to Dalmuir West but east towards Bridgeton Cross where it appears to be terminating. I recognise the old railway bridge behind the tram which was just past Glasgow Cross, and even in Glasgow they prefer to drive on the left.

We used to think those Coronation trams were very posh with leather seats and even the driver was blessed with one, unlike the older vehicles in which they had to stand.

Glasgow was never quite the same after its huge fleet of trams disappeared ... as for getting around relatively easily, it was to that city what the Tube is to London.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/634361

Thanks, scotty, that's very interesting. I found out from my family tree researches that earlier generations (1860/70s) of mangertons lived very near to the site of that photo, in a place called Spoutmouth just off the Gallowgate.

I'd have been living in Edinburgh at the time of that photo. Edinburgh lost its trams a few years before Glasgow, and shortly afterwards lost its suburban railways too. Glasgow at least has been lucky enough to retain most of these.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

trolleys in london

[greenilex]

It can't have been much fun as a pleb in old Julius' time - WS doesn't give them good parts - but The Many keep cropping up all over the shop, so join us or miss out....

[An_Inspector_Calls]

A chapter in a future management manual:

Managing the jobsworths: discipline or exploit. Case study: the MET versus Mitchell and the UK Government.

[amateur51]

trolleys in london

That does look remarkably like a bendybus

[eighthobstruction]

Bloody plebs....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzENK8QaYf8

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

That does look remarkably like a bendybus

no ams just close .........................

[Paul Sherratt]

I have no interest in Rugby football.
Therefore I must be a pleb.

[scottycelt]

Bloody plebs....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzENK8QaYf8

Hmmm, Morrisons, I might have guessed!

You wouldn't get plebs like that in Waitrose ...

[Paul Sherratt]

Bananas ?