Does anyone still use or like vinyl?

[Dave2002]

The general s/h shop in Fore St, Bodmin. I came away with 2 CDs (Tokyo 4tet in Haydn Op76) and 9 LPs (avant garde 2 box, Delius Miniatures - Del Mar, Copland conducting his Short & Dance symphonies, and "Courtly Pastimes of 16th century England" by St George's Canzona) all for less than a fiver!

I thought I did well somewhere near Dundee recently when I got 20 CDs and 9 or 10 LPs for under £20. My haul included some fairly esoteric LPs, presumably from a serious music collector's collection- Rubbra, Swedish composers etc.

[Serial_Apologist]

aaah one of the rare humans who seems to be able to detect individual grains at 44.1
or even 48 and beyond

And that's just scratching the surface....

[MrGongGong]

And that's just scratching the surface....

indeed
like the

Totally silent pressings and a Linn Sondek

that's "TOTALLY SILENT"

I guess if you've paid that much for a deck then you need to believe in the impossible ........................... the laws of physics don't apply in HiFi wooland

[notinajumalainukhaju]

aaah one of the rare humans who seems to be able to detect individual grains at 44.1
or even 48 and beyond

Couldn't resist:

...certain music has a calming and therapeutic influence on psychotic patients when on vinyl but apparently has the reverse effect when played off a computer ...

From:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/sep/07/david-byrne-how-music-works

[David-G]

Actually hardly anyone, AFAIK, bothered with the audio recordable CDs. I wanted to buy a recorder, but never got round to it. By the time I was thinking about that most good audio recorders had gone west, and everyone was recording onto CD-Rs and DVD-Rs rather than the audio variety. I do have a Hi-MD recorder and picked up several regular Minidisc recorders from eBay, plus loads of discs. One batch had a lot of Radio 3 and Radio 4 and classical recordings, though usually you get rock and pop music of various types.

I asked my hi-fi shop several times whether I should buy a CD-recorder to replace my audio cassette player. I was advised against it; instead, the recommendation was to record on VHS tape, by connecting the amplifier to the audio sockets of the VCR. I did this for many years and the results were excellent, though the setup was not exactly convenient as the VCR and the amplifier were in different rooms, so I had to have a long lead trailing around the house.

[MrGongGong]

Couldn't resist:

...certain music has a calming and therapeutic influence on psychotic patients when on vinyl but apparently has the reverse effect when played off a computer ...

From:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012...ow-music-works

"apparently"
Or is it along the "Mozart makes you smart" delusion ?

Is there a real reference to this "research " ?

[teamsaint]

"apparently"
Or is it along the "Mozart makes you smart" delusion ?

Is there a real reference to this "research " ?

isn't this what we "not in the trade" call "Made up "?

[Dave2002]

isn't this what we "not in the trade" call "Made up "?

Actually the article mentioned MP3s, so I can believe that some music sounds much better via vinyl than via a poorly done, or low bit rate MP3 rendition, which could send some of us off screaming for silence.

Otherwise I tend to agree with you.

[An_Inspector_Calls]

I've kept all my LPs (about 2,000) and still use them.

There was a time, in the late 80s, when I thought LP sounded very poor compared to CD. But then I started to change my 25 year old hi-fi system. One of the first changes was the preamplifier (Chord CPA2800) which had an excellent MC input. That transformed the sound I was getting from LP and I went on to add, amongst other things, an SME turntable and arm, and a Keith Monks record cleaner. Since then, I've enjoyed buying secondhand LPs that I couldn't afford previously, including a complete exploration of the Lyrita catalogue.

Anyone poo-pooing LP quality should perhaps hear a good system before dismissing LP quality.

As for the future of CD, it has to be limited. It surprises me how long classical CDs have hung onto a market position. But with 4G about to fire up, and the market competition that will follow from landline optic fibre connections and speeds, it can't be that long before we all have 20 Mbps connections, with streaming and downloads the dominant method of communication. I wonder if, in say five years, whether our car 'radios' might not simply be 4G devices. Bring it on! But I'll still have my LPs.

[jayne lee wilson]

Why are you surprised? Even now the proportion of classical releases available as lossless or hi-res downloads is very small. It would take ages to catch up and many people will already have the music on disc. Ripping 1000s of CDs is scarcely instantaneous anyway. Just as there are LPs that were never digitised, there'll be far more classical CDs unavailable as files for years ahead.. And I speak as a keen 24-bit downloader...

Taking everything into account - CD is historically the best and most popular classical music carrier. If you doubt the wisdom of that, just remember the Brennan advert...

[ahinton]

Why are you surprised? Even now the proportion of classical releases available as lossless or hi-res downloads is very small. It would take ages to catch up and many people will already have the music on disc. Ripping 1000s of CDs is scarcely instantaneous anyway. Just as there are LPs that were never digitised, there'll be far more classical CDs unavailable as files for years ahead.. And I speak as a keen 24-bit downloader...

Taking everything into account - CD is historically the best and most popular classical music carrier. If you doubt the wisdom of that, just remember the Brennan advert...

Do you ever stop writing great good sense, Jayne? (just curious)...

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Why are you surprised? Even now the proportion of classical releases available as lossless or hi-res downloads is very small. It would take ages to catch up and many people will already have the music on disc. Ripping 1000s of CDs is scarcely instantaneous anyway. Just as there are LPs that were never digitised, there'll be far more classical CDs unavailable as files for years ahead.. And I speak as a keen 24-bit downloader...

Taking everything into account - CD is historically the best and most popular classical music carrier. If you doubt the wisdom of that, just remember the Brennan advert...

Surprised? In terms of data storage and transfer, music will be easy prey, even at the highest quality, higher than we're seeing now. I look forward to companies releasing their back catalogue deletions as downloads/concert halls issuing downloads of their concerts to support their revenue/etc.

Why was CD the best/most popular? I'm sure many people enjoyed 78s, LPs. But I think there's a glorious age of music availability just round the corner.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Surprised? In terms of data storage and transfer, music will be easy prey, even at the highest quality, higher than we're seeing now. I look forward to companies releasing their back catalogue deletions as downloads/concert halls issuing downloads of their concerts to support their revenue/etc.

Why was CD the best/most popular? I'm sure many people enjoyed 78s, LPs. But I think there's a glorious age of music availability just round the corner.

This may or may not be true. All I know at present is that I ordered a FLAC download recently, because there was no CD alternative. I can't get it to open, despite an e-mail conversation with the supplier (who I believe is genuinely trying to help.

And I completely agree about the ridiculous Brennan advert...

[Tony Halstead]

the ridiculous Brennan advert..

Oh dear, I was thinking of getting one of those Brennan machines!
is there something 'not right' about it, that we should be told?
Doesn't it do what it says 'on the tin'?

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Someone here must have a Brennan. I don't know what's wrong with it, other than it rips CDs to mp3. But in any case I doubt there's any need to rip your CDs because there'll be CD players sold for years to come, just as there is LP playing equipment.

Are modern-day CDs still pressed, or are they all short-run CD-R copies? The Lyrita catalogue is entirely CD-R. I wonder what their shelf life is? My experience of 'domestic' CD-R was that after 5 years they started to fail rapidly.